The 7th house rules “the other”. Consequently, whatever is in your 7th house gets projected. Hearing this, you might say, “not me”, but the fact is, this is phenomenon and no one is excluded.
If you can catch on, the understanding will help you for through out your life, because the tendency will never leave you. This is what I mean by “phenomenon”. Understanding this will not stop it from happening, but it will stop you from throwing your life away.
Yesterday, I spoke with a gal who was lamenting the fact other people are talented and creative; they are doing creative things and she’s, I don’t know. Some kind of dog is not allowed in this realm? On my end of the of the phone, my eyes opened wide; her voice in my ear, while staring at the chart of an obviously talented artist.
Sun Venus in Taurus / 7th. Mars in Aries in the 5th. Leo at the the top of the chart, etc.
Further, she has a lifetime of dance training, since she was a toddler, essentially, and above all and most of all, she has the exact idea of what she wants to do. I mean, she knows and she has the innate energy and all the skills needed to make it… but her talent is so projected, she’s stuck! This is how profound this is!
This is not easy information to come across so I made this video to help people see it. It’s old but I used stories to illustrate.
If you’re constantly obsessed by other people are doing (good or bad), this is the kind of thing you want to check. Because whatever’s in your 7th house, belongs to you. If you don’t catch off the parts of your life described by the planets will be experienced vicariously, with your blinders in tact.
One more thing – this is what you all “useful astrology”. It becoming harder and harder to find, so please share this.
There were a lot of questions in the comments. I’ve started to address them here: What if there is nothing in my 7th house?
Do you wonder what’s in your 7th house? Get your Natal Chart Report.
Jamie, no it’s Jupe Aries 8 degrees but in 6th. But you’re right, I did once marry someone younger, and really young guys are constantly attracted to me
And I Do jump in, at least, my emotions get out of control if I think I’ve met the ONE. Mars in Libra. Yes, I have been told that I project too much of my goodness onto other people, and I know I have fallen in “love” with the ideal instead of the reality. Yeah that story is a riot, not to mention the delivery!
Yes, Mari. I can empathize. I was always “leaping before looking” but I think that I have that under control now. Where is your Mars?
I remember when I used to waitress at this nightclub and this young soldier would come every night that I worked just to talk to me. My co-workers called him my “puppy” because he followed me everywhere. That was my damned Mars in Leo allowing him to hold my “train” as I walked down the red carpet. I’ve got that under control as well. 🙂
If your story is anything like mine then I get the riot part… 😉
If I have Saturn in the 7th, that means I direct that part of my personality to to others instead of owning the part myself. There are good and not so good parts of self that may be projected onto others. It makes sense to find someone else; relationship or otherwise to “be” that part for us, especially if we are not quite ready to own that part of our personality.
If I have projected my own sense of authority onto others (giving up that part) that may mean I don’t use that ability and thus become more dependant or child like or find issue with that authority for another psychological purpose. The aim of astrology and psychology is to become aware of those unconscious processes so that we may not repeat the negative aspects of personality patterns. They are always there to test us, to act consciously or unconsciously in matters. Thats ok.
I think you would make a very good psychologist Elsa, if you ever thought of taking up that direction. I am sure you have thought about it.
kingsley
Thanks, kingsley. I have thought about it, I am very interested in psychology but mostly I just want to tell my stories and entertain.
Kingsley, this is interesting. Projecting is seeing one of our traits that we do or do not like in someone else, that we may or may not recognize belongs to us?
But what do you call it if you have a quality, say honesty, and you will someone else to have that too, and you can see in their soul even as they are robbing a bank, you think, well he’s honest deep down and wouldn’t be doing this if there weren’t dire circumstances. His honesty’s just waiting to bloom. Is it still called projecting if you don’t give up the quality itself? or is it just too much Libra he he
What about people with planets in their first house relating with people with planets in their 7th? Is this a good thing or not?
I have most of my planets in the 12th and 1st.. while my oldest friend has most of her planets in the 7th. I find that she gets frustrated when I communicate from a vantage point of self. And I’ve noticed that she rarely does this. When others do the same I think it’s normal so I never understood this dynamic with her until recently. And I’ve seen some of the projection recently as well since I’m in her wedding and she told me that the dress I was interested in (she’s giving us some choice in the matter) was too boring for me and she doesn’t see me as so boring. It then confused me.. if it’s my choice then that’s the one for me because it’s elegant and little fuss.. but if it’s her choice I’ll choose a more out-there dress.
In the last year or so I’ve become more aware of how my questioning of self – with planets hidden in the 12th and mercury in the 1st – has created a really draining and dysfunctional(?) dynamic with her and her planets in the 7th and 8th. I’ve started changing my language in how I phrase things in order to better relate to her and I’ve seen improvement.
My ex also had neptune in the 7th and when pluto opposed my moon 2 years ago it also conjuncted his neptune. And of course the truth of our dynamic was exposed. (my ex would literally try to get me to smoke weed and to drink beer when things were starting to sour – drug his partner). I also had a great date with someone who’s venus was in the 7th.. but it was a weekend thing and then he had to fly back home. I’m wary of relating to people with planets in the 7th because of the projection.. when I already question the who and what that I am. But maybe this is natural to attract these people? Any thoughts?
we all have a 7th house Liz, even if there are no planets in 7th, the sign and sign ruler becomes the descriptor of potential projection. The seventh house is the person whom we will hopefully attract by presenting our particular type of persona (ascendant). That is one theory of the 1st and 7th.
kingsley
Yikes me!!! Gemini on the 7th…Mercury in Libra!! I’m dieing of thirst here….I need some “water”. Somebody give me some water!!!
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Moon/neptune in Sag in mine. Still sort of figuring this whole issue out, so I’m glad you’re talking about it 🙂
Kashmiri, when you say Saturn type, can you explain that? Also, if I’m not being too nosy, I was just wondering how much of an age difference? (maybe you remember big age difference between me and my guy – I keep wondering if I should feel like a perv. and why is it acceptable for the man to be a lot older, but not the other way around?)
I am still struggling to understand all this stuff, but when certain things are said, I try to imprint them on my mind – so thanks Kingsley (post 58)
I have Mars and Uranus in the 7th, (Pisces Asc.) so now I guess I have to go do some research to try to figure out what that means.
Conny, I’d say you project your Jupiter but others can see it in you. For example in the video (I think I talked about Shack Man.) I think he’s eccentric, others think I am eccentric for marrying him but I don’t see that because I have my eccentricity projected!
I have come into the comments late here, however to answer Conny, the projection and attraction elements of the 7th house work in a variety of ways and depends upon the persons evolvement and other chart points.
If you attract Jupitarian types, beneficial others into you world then, there will be psychologically driven reason for that. So to, would being a benefactor for others in your life and 7th house. One can embody the qualities as you say, however that may also be what is called projective identification. Perhaps the jupitarian quality for you are easier to express through someone else. If you like something about aniother person and you decide to enlist some of their good qualities and eventually incorporate them into your your own personality then something the 7th house will apply. There are ok ways to project and identify with others as there are also ways to negatively project parts of our personality that we are not keen to be aware of yet. Perhaps Jupiter in the 7th is about everyone else being ok and a belief that one is not as ok as them?
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I’ve got a basic question about projections. Let’s say you’ve got Jupiter in the 7th house. Do you project the jupiterian qualities onto others and see them as having these qualities, or do you embody these qualities, so that others see you as a Jupiter type? Or does the projection go both ways? Since the 7th house is a “meeting place”, it might go both ways, right?
Sorry if I wasn’t clear enough Conny, Jupiter in 7th is looking for the riches in others when not identifying the richness in oneself.
kingsley
Thanks Kingsley. I have Jupiter in the 7th and your insight rings true. People often say this about me, but I just made this connection to my chart. Weird.
Thank you Elsa, that makes it very clear to me!
Moon in Taurus in the 7th and my SO has moon in Taurus in the 7th. I’m no Florence Nightingale by any stretch. He says it best when he says he could fall over dead from hunger or sickness and I’d only notice if I actually fell over him. That’s me. Living in my head and not noticing anything around me. On the other hand, he definitely mothers and nurtures me. Absolutely. No doubt at all. That’s a projection because I’m the most unnuturing person we both know (unless you count intellectual nurturing).
My other big relationship had Pluto and Uranus in the 7th house in Virgo in the 7th house. I wasn’t projecting there because we had so much going on with our moon, Venus and Saturn that he absolutely wanted to take care of me (and did), but he definitely projected that Pluto and Uranus on me because I made him transform his whole belief system and career and I’m very independent, uncommital and eccentric. Basically I’m a Pluto/Uranian 7th house dream girl or as he says, his Lilith. LOL We still stay in contact.
But, me embrace my 7th house Moon? Not going to happen. I can take care of myself if I’m alone but barely. It’s nothing I enjoy and I certainly do not take care of anyone else unless I’m dragged into it kicking and screaming. Even then, that is not going to last with me at all. I’ll sever any relationship that starts getting into that. It seems to suck the life out of me in less than a day. (Not good. My Libra goes right out the window and my Scorpio comes out in full force!)
Taurus is ruler of my 7th house, and I have mars in Taurus. I married a man who has zero planets in Taurus. I have read that mars in taurus is not the most happy of placements. I have been married for 20 years. I will not pretend that we have not had our ups and downs, and major blow-outs (whole lot of them) but something keeps us together. Does this mean I project a Mars Taurus personality?
Aquarius on the 7th house cusp Uranus being the ruler. Sharing the house with Pisces neptune being the ruler..
Ex-husband had an Aquarius Moon
Neptune ruling Pisces. He smoked cigarettes for the 1st 2 years of our marriage and I did not know it…(just one aspect)..I don’t like cigs
and he was very good at hiding it..
He was head of a small steel company and we had to project(neptune)our partnership(7th) in the public with a good image for business contracts..
Another Saturn in 7th – Pisces. It’s aspected all over the place, but I don’t know if those aspects impact projection or not.
I just ended a long marriage to a man 15 years my senior, and am now in an incredibly surprising and wonderful relationship with a man old enough to be my father.
He treats me better than anyone ever has, and in a lot of ways has brought me back to life. After years of doing all the giving, I am overwhelmed at times. He goes above and beyond any expectation I have ever had. He treats me – the way I have treated those I love in my life. Is that projection? Feels like it.
He reminds me – often – that I do not give myself enough credit for being what he calls “the whole package” as far as a partner goes. “You don’t have enough respect for yourself. See yourself the way the world sees you. The way I see you.” That’s Saturn in Pisces, I’m sure.
Venus in aquarius in my 7th house. Husband is not eccentric.
LC…well the joke’s on me…my SO has Saturn in his 7th and I actually have it in my 8th! Doh!
flip my ex had Venus in Aquarius…he refused to hold hands in public. :::snickers::: he also wasn’t eccentric, but he was his own man, for sure.
Venus in Gemini in the 7th. I love someone who’s got more than one side to them. They’re clever and quick and know a million different things with a wicked sense of humor and changing from subject to subject seems like second nature. They have other things going on in their life so and they’re always hard to pin down. And they always have a story to tell me. This use to frustrate me until I realized that I do the same freakin’ thing and I actually enjoy it to no end.
I have Uranus conjunct moon in the 7th. You’re right about Uranus–I only notice a guy if he’s “different”! But as I’ve gotten older, my freak shield has gotten thicker. (That’s only by the grace of some other aspect in my chart, I’m sure.)
mars and pluto in 7th. I don’t even wanna think about it D:
I seem to have a flair for pissing of people and attracting the same. Not good for well being nu-uh.
Mikey,
That has really cleared something up for me – have mars/pluto conjunct my sun and my best friend says I really piss alot of people off! She thinks I am very misunderstood – that my total drive for whatever I am interested in is misinterpretated as aggressive. In fact it is just a desire to learn about whatever interests me – I don’t really notice other people! So it could be the mars/pluto doing that. Good to know – still don’t care of course!
Moon and Pluto in the Libra seventh. My Libra moon trine venus in gemini and my pluto conjunct descendant at 0’58” and is squared by my Cancer Sun. I look for a refined, elegant and attractive surface coupled with inner depth and intensity. My current boyfriend is a handsome 4th house Scorpio Sun – 12th house Cancer Moon. However, that intensity got a price: sex addiction. It’s not funny as it sounds.
mars and saturn in 7 house means what exactly in psychological terms is still a mystery . Both are conflicting energies . True they are attracted to intensity, action and also maturity and responsibility but it has to be something more than that.
what if we have a sign swallowed up in the 7th house? I use koch/placidus they show the same placements for me. Aquarius intercepted in the first, leo in the 7th. Descendant in cancer
jo, my true opinion is if you have signs swallowed by houses, you are making your life too hard, LOL. I use Equal houses and so don;t suffer. 🙂
I have Venus & Saturn conjunct in Scorpio, and Mercury & Neptune conjunct in Libra all in my 7th house. The first time I had my chart done, my astrologer (also a friend) asked me what the hell I was thinking?? This spot in my chart has certainly presented me with a lifetime of lessons in sorting out relationships (probably as much if not more of an influence than Sun/Moon/Ascendant, although they’re all in the mix, of course). I hadn’t ever looked at it through the lens of projection, but there’s probably some insight there.
elsa, i would use equal but both koch and placidus ring more true to me in respect to my own natal chart… saturn & uranus which were in my 11th house (koch/plac) are moved to my 12th house, which I’m not quite sure of. Moon & Mars in the 3rd with equal.. while in koch/plac they’re placed in the 2nd.. and aqua/leo is intercepted in both systems. i’ll have to do some more research on the house systems though i suppose. It’s hard to differentiate moon/mars in 3rd from 2nd because i have jupiter in gemini and that makes me rather talkative in general.
Jupiter and Neptune.
Aries Moon in 7th house conjunct Desc.
I want my men to mother and nurture me. If they don’t do that, then I have to mother and nurture them instead. Without that interaction my relationships don’t survive.
Also, and this is possibly because my 7th house cusp is Aries, the chase is better than the catch. When there’s no challenge in a relationship, I lose my interest.
Funnily enough I also see almost every other woman as a mother type, but not myself. I feel like I wouldn’t be a good mother. Every man I’ve ever been with tell me otherwise, they’re all 100% sure I would be great.
I look to my partner to take care of me too. I have Mars and moon in 7th.
Want to see women as caretakers too. It’s expected of me as if I don’t have a role model as my mother does it when she can.
Moon and Saturn in Aries…
Maybe my Jupiter in the 7th explains how I can so effortlessly be beneficial to others even as my life falls apart.
I made a note of that in another thread. Maybe this explains it.
I have an empty 7th house natally.
But I have jupiter and Uranus in my seventh house at 29 degrees right now…What does that mean Elsa?
An old flame has come back every day he shows up and now Venus is going retrograde..The pain we went through is not being discussed he is just here everyday making me so confused! I still care about him and it is making things uncomfortable for me!
Chiron … I have Chiron in Aquarius in my 7H. Now I’m curious. What would projected Chiron look like ???
And, I just discovered, I’m in the middle of my Chiron return which is occurs somewhere between 50-52
Thanks for this 🙂
I have Sun and south node conjunct in the 7th as well as mercury and chiron – Uranus is 7th house ruler – my sun is opposite Pluto which makes me interested only in powerful successful and eccentric men – never married so not sure how this will work out.
CERES in CANCER .. do i try and nourish and tend to my partners? yep ..do i expect them to do the same? most definitely
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Leo on the Cusp, Uranus Pluto Virgo 7th.
I attract the weird ones who want a committed relationship with me immediately. I’m supposed to follow rules, but they don’t have to. One alcoholic, one psycho, both pathological liars. Both relationships started strongly suddenly and ended completely in a sudden way.
I’m still trying to figure out how to attract someone who is fun, plays by relationship rules, is committed and interesting without him being a total freak.
Preaching to the choir, Isernia!
I have Chiron in my 7th house. I am drawn to sensitive, wounded types. It would be a real shock for me to have my own woundedness out there, in the open, for others to see.
Oh Boy, What a mess! Uranus/Libra & Pluto/Virgo in 7th. Sun,Venus, Merc & South Node tightly huddled together banging on the front door in Leo. Do I project? You bet your sweet ass I do.
….front door Leo/Virgo. ***Not that ya’ll care but the Virgo’s got to correct that. 😉
I have mercury (chart ruler), jupiter and neptune in my seventh…i havent read all the comments lol so i apologize if i repeat someone….i always seem drawn to people who are highly spiritual mystical creative otherwordly into music or on drugs or downtrodden…thats neptune… but also hilarious and generous and larger than life…also tall men. Thats jupiter. and they have to be smart and its important that we enjoy eachothers minds and are on a similar or same wavelength…ive also gone for the older younger relationship both sides… thats mercury. so you are saying some or all of these are inherent in me. since like attracts like real recognizes real etc. interesting stuff
I have Nep in Cap in the 7th house, on my DSC.
I attract pisceans in droves…and deluded people.
I have an empty 7th but with Virgo on the cusp. This makes sense to me because I am always attracted to curious, writerly types.
I have leo on the 7th house with no planets therein. Its horrible because I am so awkward around these types, I can’t get what I want. I like feisty, diva type women who have a mind of their own. I don’t even have a fixed start there sadly 🙁 I do attract those types too in some sense but strictly plantonicaly cause I get a bit scared. One girl I was recently talking to on/off is a leo moon and a capricorn , the the capricorn wasn’t her nature really because she doesn’t want to work and will never have to work, she has a rich dad! So she is biding her time till he dies! lol!