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A thread for questions, thoughts, trends, on nutrition including but not limited to effects, diets, lifestyles, additives, history, preferences, customs, and (almost) anything goes.

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What are everyone’s thoughts on seed oils?

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Bar in the Sky
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@allie120 cold press is the way to go. I think oil nutrition is all in the heat treatment. Are you frying foods in oil that should not be heated to a certain temperature? probably not good for you.

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@allie120 I tend to avoid and just use olive oil.

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@allie120

I've only used olive oil for decades, even for a great pie crust, and buy the Butter/Olive Oil combo.  But I still give in to a bag of chips with my biweekly grocery order -- al least the Aldi blue corn use organic sunflower oil.

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@warped Olive oil for pie crust! That’s interesting. I’ll have to check that out.

My mother used to use Crisco for pie crusts and whatever other baking needed fat. I use butter but I’ve been toying with trying lard. I don’t make pies very often though. We just don’t eat lkke that much anymore. I do think it’s a fun and valuable skill to have.

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@allie120 

I use original Smart Balance as a butter substitute. It worked well in a baked apple crisp. I use it for scrambled eggs, too, though it melts quicker.  

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@allie120 I think of it kind of like high fructose corn syrup. Calorie for calorie, I don't think it's significantly worse than the alternatives. But the ultra processed, highly palatable, calorie dense foods that are often made with it are much easier to over-consume and less satiating than the less processed stuff. If I'm just eating it on rare occasions and not on regular basis, I don't worry too much about it!

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Since I started doing energy work, energetic healing from 2017 onwards, I found over time I eat way less and I lean towards things that are real rather than processed. I still eat some processed things as I was brought up on this and it's hard to break the habits which are emotional, like sugary things especially, but it's reduced considerably. I often half the portion suggested as being for 1 person..suggested by the supplier. Its something I never thought about before but when you are shopping things are portioned out for you and we don't really question it. Once you start questioning it it's interesting. 

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@sophiab Exactly! 

One big eye opener for me was counting calories. I wasn’t trying to lose much weight, maybe five pounds to make weight for a meet, and my weight is pretty steady. I didn’t want to cut so close to th date because I still don’t have that down to a science. So two months prior I downloaded MyFitness Pal, figured out what I needed for calories and just tracked, emphasizing protein, especially. It works. You don’t need as much as what’s presented in commercials or what you see many consuming. 

It’s not hard once I did it for awhile since I like many of the same things (although a large, but simple repertoire). I don’t track on the weekends but I stay close to what I eat and it works!

In turn, it opens up what’s in foods, ingredients, etc.

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@allie120 "You don’t need as much as what’s presented in commercials or what you see many consuming." Agree. And seeing through this also helps when dealing with food price hikes and inflation which are likely rigged anyway. 

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@allie120 I downloaded My Fitness Pal app several years ago. When I used it, I lost weight. When I didn’t, I gained. 
What I like is the ability to add recipes and meals. I’ve typed in our recipes for our chili, fajitas, etc. I’ve added meals for certain food combos as well. 
Another useful thing is the ability to copy meals not only time wise (same breakfast every day), but between friends.  When my husband used it, I copied his meals when appropriate. 

One more thing, My Fitness Pal can link to activity trackers and subtracts calories used.  

Enough on that!

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Posted by: @sue-ellen

I downloaded My Fitness Pal app several years ago. When I used it, I lost weight. When I didn’t, I gained. 

@sue-ellen Same. For me tracking calories and macros is the only thing that actually helps me shed pounds. I hate measuring portions and counting every ingredient on an app and forcing myself to eat enough protein, but it works. I have not been doing it lately... 🤫 

 

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@cocopeaches I don’t love measuring either but after I’d been doing it for awhile, I could guesstimate better so I don’t do it for everything, so that does make it easier.

 

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@sue-ellen I have the free version so it doesn’t have all the features but I do like it. 

I don’t track on weekends or holidays haha and that sounds worse than it is. After almost six months I can tell where I’m at enough to let it go then. But it does make you aware of your consumption so that you can get an idea and also a day here or there when you go off is reasonable. 

I think if one was a bodybuilder with an event it’s necessary to be super strict or if a person has vital dietary guidelines they need to follow. 

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@allie120  I have the free version. Everything I listed is available on the free version.

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@sue-ellen That’s good! Good enough for me!

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After reading that your gut is your second brain, I am always consciously aware of what I am consuming for food. Feeding your micro biome is beneficial. No fast food. No soda, except for the occasional ginger ale. I will never give up gluten. I was raised on bread and pasta. And sugar is limited- I am a sucker for pastry though, if it’s near me I will eat it. Eat it all, no shame. 
My biggest hurdle is eating smaller portions and being truthful to myself that I am full. 

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@bar-in-the-sky Agree! Healthy gut= good immunity. The gut is where it’s all at!.

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@bar-in-the-sky I’ really thinking that gut health would help many other issues. It’s definitely worth looking into.

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I try to eat mainly Mediterranean for good health. I also drink approx 3 litres of filtered water per day for health/hydration.

I begin my day with whole grain cereal and fruits such as 🥝 kiwi fruit and blueberries 🫐

For gut health I consume yoghurt daily. I also consume garlic regularly in my main meal and eat plenty of onion/vegies and whole grains.

I usually have avocado, perino tomatoes and tuna for lunch. 

I eat mindfully but have no rules. A little bit of everything is my motto. When I go to a cafe I’ll get a piece of cake with my coffee. I don’t believe in deprivation. I believe in balance.

With age my appetite has naturally decreased so without trying my diet is healthier. I tend to eat to live, not live to eat; which is a bonus.

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@hades-moon I do moderation with foods, too. And most of the time it’s a self-correcting thing: some foods I just don’t want for a variety of reasons and I’m ok with that.

But certainly we should enjoy food for many reasons, whatever that is.

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I have a bit of a rant on yogurt! “Store bought yogurt is a racquet..”

store bought yogurt is expensive and legally they must heat it to a degree that kills off the beneficial bacteria. (Though I do not condone eating any type of yogurt! It is all still healthy for you to eat)
homemade yogurt is just so easy to do and more nutritious. And cheap! 

find good quality milk.

we have a local dairy farm known for their ice cream and they sell milk to the small family owned markets. (2 liters of milk= 2 liters of yogurt for the price of around $3-4) 

the culture you can buy on Amazon it is very cheap! 

most slow cookers have a yogurt function! I have a water bath base machine that will heat the yogurt for 24 hours. Anyone familiar with the GAPS diet, or Dr. Natasha McBride? 

heat the milk to 180 degree Celsius 

cool the milk to 45 degree Celsius 

pour into container/ slow cooker add the culture, let it absorb for 5 minutes then stir.

set the temperature and timer. Once done,
set in fridge overnight. Now you have 2 weeks worth of yogurt! 

If anyone is interested in the culture and water bath machine I use, I would be happy to link that information!! 

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@bar-in-the-sky Definitely post the link if you have it! 

Yogurt is a staple for me. Fage greek yogurt, plain, so I can add whatever I want. We have a dairy farm a couple towns over. We took the granddaughters for ice cream and they had their own Skyr-style yogurt so I bought some. 

It’s something worth trying to make!

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Fage, Fage, food of my dreams!  Plain is perfect, a major luxury treat for me. 

I normally get plain store brand Greek and plain kefir, with one tiny lime or coconut one for a treat.  I do occasionally add pure lemon juice or black coffee and a pinch of sugar to the yogurt.

If you haven't tried Green Mountain low fat Greek Yogurt Cream Cheese, you haven't lived!  

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@warped omg I love those flavor suggestions! Per bar-in-the-sky, I really want to make my own yogurt!

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