((((omie))))
Thanks for your kind words about the possibility of me becoming a mother. I hope you are right. Does your brother have anything in his 7th House? What's his chart like?
Esther I found the book at my library and placed a hold, thanks again!
I have to leave the house but will come back to this thread. ((((LOVE)))) x
Hey, my mother is a narcissist! Sun in Capricorn quincunx Pluto in Leo, Pluto in Leo conjunct her Ascendant and her early Virgo Moon. I always tried to fulfill her ego, to compensate for the fact she didn't get to have University studies due to lack of money. She acted like a stage mom to me, my sis got low self-esteem, while I get more and more determined not to be like her. EVER. When she has an ailment, she maximizes it so much you'd think she faces death. Once I move out, she'd rather not expect to have any kind of contact with me. I had been an attention-whore until I entered Uni, when I first realized her tactics. The Capricorn in me is determined to annul dear Mom's expectations that I 'will never make it without her'!
Maybe it's all insane ramblings, but hell, my Scorpio Moon needed to get this outta my chest!
(((((((Kashmiri)))))))) Yes, I believe that the Universe does conspire to help those who want to help themselves, and by that I mean those who understand that they were not loved and supported, but want to be able to love and support others despite their own lack of role models....I get the feeling you are one of those :0)
Fathers, that's another topic altogether. BPD and/or NPD women often marry men that they can control, manipulate and or dominate. The Father is often just as abused and damaged as the children. He may or may not be a protective factor, but in my experience he is often absent either by choice, or because he cannot tolerate the treatment by his disordered partner.
There are plenty of men btw, that suffer from these disorders also, but they are frequently able to hide behind a facade of being a good father, pillar of the community, and great provider. I don't believe two narcissists end up together as often (unless you count Ronald Reagan and First Lady Nancy Reagan). Their children wrote a few books that intimated that they were both pretty narsicisstic.
Serenity
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">"Maybe it's all insane ramblings, but hell, my Scorpio Moon needed to get this outta my chest! "
Cansocap, nothing you feel is "just insane ramblings" there is a reason you feel the way you do and for that bravo for being brave enough to speak up and get it off your chest xoxoxxo
Serenity
To add another answer to your question, Kashmiri. My brother and I are both having difficulties with forming equal relationships. There's always powerstruggles involved! I'm at this point in my life where I don't even want to be in a romantic relationship anymore. Or at least not for now. I first really need to sort out some stuff. Having a narcissistic mother is one of those things.
About the father: mine wasn't available. At least not emotional. They both aren't. My mother is the narcissist and my father the martyr.
@Omie. I'm sorry this hurts you so much.
Kashmiri,
Interesting question about Alice Miller, here is her birth data but no chart :0(
Alice Miller née Rostovski: born (12 January 1923, Lwow, Poland – 14 April 2010, Saint-Rémy de Provence, France). From wikipedia...maybe will find more on astrotheme.com which has thousands of charts for famous people world wide.
Serenity