There is a man I've known for about 15 years. He's younger than I am by about 20 years, but our charts are very, very similar. In fact, the majority of our planets line up. The degrees are very tight as well.
They say, familiarity breeds contempt, and I can feel this at times in this relationship. It runs in both directions. But neither party can truly discount the other because we'd have to be both blind and stupid to not notice the likeness between us. Neither party is blind or stupid.
It's very interesting because the first 180 degree conflict we ever had is the same conflict we have today. I think is sort of nutty.
His fundamental position is this: everyone is a liar, everywhere you go.
I have the, Henry gene. I believe most people are honest and you should take someone at their word until they're proven to be of low character.
When this subject comes up, we just stare at each other, like hogs looking at a wristwatch. But we both have Libra, so we try to see the other person's view and it's possible to do so.
In the latest altercation, he mentioned he lives in the corporate world. He assures me that every single person is a backstabbing lying son-of-a-bitch.
I do what? Take him at his word, of course! And it makes sense because he lives there, and I don't. He would know!
In contrast, I'm exposed to people who hire me to help them sort a problem. It behooves them to be honest and they generally are.
That explains it, I guess, but it's interesting because we really are of similar nature. When I try to imagine myself in this other world; well I may survive it but I would never thrive. There's just a certain amount of "goodness" that's got to be swirling around and accessible in order for me to breathe.
I don't have anything particular to ask about this. I just think it's an interesting case. The fact the relationship has been sustained over time makes it pretty unique. It's almost as if we can look at each other and see what our life would be like had we made different choices. Weirdly wonderful on some level.
"When I try to imagine myself in this other world; well I may survive it but I would never thrive. There's just a certain amount of "goodness" that's got to be swirling around and accessible in order for me to breathe."
This, exactly!
that magical power of libra to hold both sides of the scale. Good to think of before this full moon!
This resonates, especially the fact that we each live in vastly different worlds. And what's true in my world might not hold true in your world, and vice versa. I feel that I've been straddling two worlds, and need to take the final step away from where I came from, to place both feet firmly in the world where I've chosen to live. I'm doing it, but it's a slow process. Like a walking tree.
😉 I was just thinking about this before I saw your post, not from a personal, know one another level. I have Pete Burns as my Astro twin. (Lead singer and founder of the band “Dead or Alive”.) We were born 2 minutes apart and an ocean away from one another.
He was flamboyant, cutting edge, he was part of a paradigm shift in music and celebrity.
Me…my Libra shows more, even when I wanted to stand apart, it was more refined. I was never meant to be a celebrity, it would drive me crazy. But I always wanted to point to something and know that in my way I changed the world, and I did. But you wouldn’t know unless you were told. At this stage I’m ok with that. When I was younger not so much, I wanted it shouted from the mountain top. I said in a previous post my life’s lesson more often than not was “managing expectations” and don’t upset your mother. or husband.
someday I”ll let loose and damn the consequences.
@teresa-s This is very interesting...I guess there is a lot of information about big happenings in his life since he's such a public figure; have they happened at the same time as you have had major things happening to you?
I had to think about this for a bit. We rhyme, but at different octaves.
One of the biggest differences in our lives was our parents. He had both parents, his mom was an alcoholic but supportive of his creative spirit. I had divorced parents with a mom who was a strong Virgo with a Leo ascendant and an older sister who was Taurus with Leo ascendant. Both constantly out shone me even with my massive Leo, my Libra ascendant tended to really put a damper on all my fire .
We both loved music , I played several different instruments. None good enough to be professional. So saying that, at 14 he quit school and went to work in a record store. He left behind the old and found his passion. Me, I got moved from Iowa to Colorado at 14. I had wanted to be an architect , be on the swim team ( hopefully try out for the Olympics ) and take shop classes. My dreams came to a stop. No swimming program and unlike my prior school they didn’t allow females in shop. I still hoped to be an architect. He wore girl clothes, I wore boy clothes one minute the next it was white eyelet sundresses with pink and blue ribbons. I wore mens work boots and button fly Levi’s with baseball caps when allowed to school. Back in the 70’s in some of the small towns I lived in that wasn’t proper. I kept pushing to get into shop, some of the excuses I was given was I might hurt myself. Eventually I did get into one, but the teacher told me I didn’t being there. So I guess Pete and I both worked to breakdown stereo types.
Pete’s life from that point moved from one band to the next expanding, mine went from one town to the next even smaller town contracting with fewer and fewer opportunities until even my dream of being an architect was squashed. Everyone, parents, sibling school conselor was pushing me to be a nurse….do you see anything in that chart that says nurse?
Both of us married in 1978, I found a way to become a drafter and released some creative energy designing machines. Pete through music. There is stuff we both probably went through in our married life best left unsaid. His marriage came to an end in 2006 mine hung on by a thread and eventually got better.
The year 2006 was pivotable for both of us career wise. He had hit the top in the mid to late 80’s. I had some success, but didn’t have a major breakthrough until mid to late 90’s. Which was also overshadowed by an engineer who didn’t want to share the limelight and passed off all my hard work as all his. In 2006 Pete changed from musician to reality tv celebrity. More visibility but not as creative, but performance based also not respected as a musician. I transitioned from designer of a very successful product to Applications, working with companies integrating that product, still creative but in a different vein and a lot more visibility for me.
At 57 he died of cardiac arrest, at that same age I had health issues. I was borderline on alot of health problems so I undertook getting healthy and have been working at it since with really great results.
I still love fashion and looking fabulous. More refined or boho dependent on the day. On an average day I work really hard on my skin care regimen, no cosmetic surgery (I am thinking of some Botox)
the really funny thing. Before all his surgery I think we could have passed for cousins in our looks. Both pics are from about 1984ish.
I'm still wondering why anyone would choose and stay in a career filled with backstabbing liars. It must be for the money, but is it worth it?
@warped yes, it's the money and this is the fundamental difference between us. He actually pines to have my type job, but chooses the other? It's soul-piercing and I don't overstate this.
We're so very similar, but he will cross lines, I won't. And as result he has a different lifestyle than I do.
You may not have as much money as he does, but what you do have and have achieved are infinitely more valuable!
@warped I agree. I would not trade places him... I could not survive his life for five minutes. I can't say hell would be preferable, but this is what comes to mind when I consider it.
Can you imagine me, drinking martinis (or whatever), at lunch at posh places, day in, day out, making deals and what not? There's just no way.
Lol, the martini lunches I could handle! It's the clawing, debasing, brown nosing, identity destroying steps necessary to reach that point that would really be hell.
The closest I ever got was selling real estate. I encountered a few sleazy characters, but because I wasn't chasing high roller developers or flippers, most interactions were pleasant.
I totally prefer the Plank in the Sun these days -- I even sleep on a mat on the floor! But I did have a couple of semi-posh decades, and before the Waltons, I wanted to be Emma Peel.
My "self," such as it is was formed by so many of the books and movies I ingested in youth. And being a fly on the wall in a kaleidoscope of settings can be as much or more fun than participating!
