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PrimeVideo has a new series called Upload with that premise. You're not required to upload but many people want to. The world you upload to is determined by how much money you can afford...not all heavens are equal. Also if you are not maintaining your account you get frozen in the heaven world...it's a pretty creepy idea.

  

OMG!

I looked it up on PrimeVideo, and this is scary eek_gif and yes, I agree it's a very creepy idea.

For me, I put this in the same basket as cryogenics.

No thanks!

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@osiris-wife Oh! We finally found something to disagree on. I would LOVE valid cryogenics. Imagine getting a shot at waking up in 3040! Agree, it will be a tad lonely. But it reminds me of my last rites discussion with the husband. "As long as any one of the following is valid - I can hear new music, I can read new things, I can see something with my eyes and feel people's touch.. do not DO NOT unplug life-bloody-support. Keep me alive forever, if that is what it takes. I leave enough money/insurance/legal rights behind me to make it possible." ?  Needless to say, he was so terrified that we are now getting a divorce. ?  (Too soon? ? )

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@vesta hahaha it's never too soon to lighten up life with humor. 

Even with a list of proviso I would still say no thanks. That's because I have a sneaky suspicion that contrary to popular religious teachings, "hell" is actually on Earth. So, the joke just might be on humans - how funny would that be, extending life in in "hell" ?  

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@osiris-wife Awww...I get it. But think about it, if hell is on Earth, so must heaven. Would you not want to contribute to turning one into the other? Smile Besides, I think I would be a very cool super-duper granny, gyrating to the latest in music, and wearing the latest fashions as the youngins in 3040. 😀

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@vesta Hahaha Granny V!

I don't know about heaven on Earth, because recounts of near death experiences or of dying people, say otherwise. There's talk of a peaceful light, return to source perhaps?!

 

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The subtitle of this thread originally covered Pluto’s transition from Capricorn to Aquarius, so this is in response to that, and this Pluto in Capricorn thread. There’s a question about what will happen to the people who have lost their jobs, due to businesses and other companies closing. How can people work to support themselves when there are no places to employ them?

With Uranus in Taurus, the issue of how we make money is on the table, and our conventional outlets are undergoing a massive destabilization right now. Many are up a creek at the moment, and most are feeling at least some effect from it, if only anxiety. Others are thriving, to be sure. On the other hand, most of us have experienced an economic downturn—recession, depression—before, yet this one feels different. Most haven’t experienced one in Uranus in Taurus, and we’re seeing... well, it seems like we’re witnessing the impossible. 

UBI hasn’t really been taken seriously on the political stage, yet the stimulus checks many have received are inching towards proving the impossible. We probably won’t know anything for certain until Uranus exits Taurus, or until we at least have a few more years of experience under our belts, but what could it mean if people aren’t living paycheck to paycheck or forced to work jobs they hate? Or if our work-life balance becomes more reasonable, and people aren’t killing themselves to make a buck to scrape by to support their families? On average, US citizens work far longer hours than any other Western developed nation, akin to Mexico and North Korea. 

What might happen if larger business fail and we experiment with social security (that we pay for) in the coming years? If people are able to receive money that pays for the basics, like food and keeping the lights on and hot water running, some believe people will be able to explore creative outlets that were previously only hobbies and even possible money drains. How will Pluto in Aquarius motivate Leo energy? 

Considering this creative potential (even a heart centered spiritual and communal opportunity), people might be able to support themselves further with good faith exchanges of unique products and abilities. I don’t often think specifically of the Age of Aquarius, as it seems a little nebulous, yet I wonder if this is the type of shift that would flourish in such a time. 

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On another note, an extreme division in values could be on the horizon regarding technology. The pace of scientific breakthroughs is such that it could be out of our hands soon—it already is in many ways, with science, scientists, and technology becoming new religious outlets and leaders.

Covid-19 is unfortunately revealing the cost of in person connection. How many money dollars does it take to power an office building, a restaurant, a movie theater, a school? Having people work, learn, and relate at home is sure to be much less expensive.

Prior to Covid-19, people were already rebelling against social media outlets, and the lack of true happiness and satisfaction they bring. With the increasing restrictions on these “public” platforms, such as YouTube and Twitter, regarding potentially false (Covid) related information, where does that leave topics such as astrology, which is usually considered a pseudoscience in the mainstream? The reach of censorship might be longer than we know.

While some may be ready to lean in further towards connectivity facilitated by and through technology (Zoom meetings, anyone?), others will rebel and reject it outright.

Personally, I see this as a rather complex matter than can’t be drawn across US political party lines. While I support a more reasonable work-life balance with more fulfilling meaningful daily activity, in general, and more time for creative outlets, as well as genuine spiritual and communal exploration, I reject the loss of human connection, full stop. 

I very much wonder what 2022 will look like, for me, and for the collective.

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I am hoping for nationalism and patriotism to die a slow painful death, with Pluto's ingress into Aquarius. I am apparently in minority.

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I think this will be a rebirth (Pluto) of the collective (Aquarius) through subtle nebulous creative transformation (Neptune sextile Pluto).

Starting this December Pluto becomes the sole planet in Capricorn (yay!). In 2021, the Neptune sextile Pluto aspect which spans ~1950-2032, gets closer, coming to ~5° in 2021-2023 and ~2° in parts of 2022. Which means we once again reach a period in this long cycle where creative transformation which began in ~1950 is heightened, tweaked, improved and not necessarily destroyed – that’s because sextiles simple just work, in ways that we often take for granted. For example, one could say that since the 1950s we have consistently creatively tweaked airplanes, trains, ships, computers, telephones, group sporting events, education etc., in ways that have created a global community. No other period in history have humans been so singularly connected. So, when the Neptune-Pluto sextile edges closer between 2021-2023, a creative period may prevail without us genuinely appreciating it until Pluto ingress Aquarius.

What also makes this period unique, is that Jupiter will be in Pisces; potentially magnifying the Neptune-Pluto sextile because Jupiter and Neptune are happy bedfellows in Pisces. We have never had a tight Neptune-Pluto sextile so strongly elated by a Jupiter-Neptune conjunction in Pisces. So, this will be significant. The last Jupiter-Neptune conjunction in Pisces was in 1856, but Neptune-Pluto were not sextile.

I think that whatever we create or spiritual attainment we achieve so subtly (Neptune sextile Pluto)  in the years leading to Pluto in Aquarius, will likely transform (Pluto) the collective (Aquarius) … the early manifestation of the Age of Aquarius born of Jupiter-Saturn Conjunction in Aquarius?!

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Beyond that, Neptune-Pluto will sextile within 0-3*, perfecting several times from 2026-2032.

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@osiris-wife I'm interested if you think the transformation of the collective might also be a transfer of power to the collective, away from the "old guard." Maybe using tech after eliminating censorship or something (I'm brainstorming).

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@dolce yes I think the "transfer of power to the collective" is a long term achievement that will likely happen gradually. Even in the current crisis, we're seeing the infancy of unity in ideology. After all, chaos is the void that precedes creation. 

Personally, I am hopeful and more inclined to be optimistic about the future of our collective because we show-up when it counts the most. 

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@osiris-wife Thank you. I am optimistic as well. I see doom and gloom written everywhere lately, and I think it's important to contemplate these different scenarios. There are few people I know right now who are optimistic about the future. But trends can be changed. Power in the collective could help that. Fingers crossed Smile

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~26 months away from

Pluto’s longest stay at ~11 weeks and the 1st of 4 passes at 0* Aquarius. That’s not all..

Weeks into Pluto’s ingress, we get a rare Hybrid Solar Eclipse at 29* Aries on 4/20/2023.

The last Hybrid Solar Eclipse was in November 2013 …. that was an awful time for me.

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@osiris-wifewhats a hybrid solar eclipse??

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It’s an Eclipse, that is Annular for some of the time and then at some point switches and becomes Total. Typically there’s one Hybrid Eclipse every decade. From an Astrological perspective, we already know that Eclipses are unpredictable, so the hybrid natures amplifies the surprise element.. like the stuff unthinkable, mind-blowing stories are made of.

The 2013 Hybrid Eclipse was also right in the middle of the 7 Squares of Uranus-Pluto between 2012 and 2015. In fact, this particular Eclipse occurred 2 days before the Uranus-Pluto Square that sits in the middle of all 7. It was a horrid period for me personally, and I can attest that out the blue I got sucked into a deep black hole, and dragged through a slow burning death of my core that ended around the last Uranus-Pluto Square in March 2015.

This time around, in 2023 the Hybrid Eclipse is occurring when Pluto changes signs to Aquarius. At a time when we’re still newly in the 20-year cycle of the recent Jupiter-Saturn Conjunct at 0* Aquarius. I see 2023, as a time of the triple energetic effect of Jupiter-Saturn-Pluto at 0* Aquarius … when we might truly get to experience the Great Conjunction. In my opinion, Astrology often falls into a one dimension thought process of assuming that time is linear. In doing so, transits at date of occurrence are over emphasized which invariably ignores the connectedness of our Universe.

Currently, Pluto is still in Capricorn, also on 12/21 the Great Conjunction occurred with the Moon Void of Course, which tells me that the Jupiter-Saturn Conjunction’s benefits will most likely be delayed. Presumably because Pluto in Capricorn needs time to work on rebirth, creative reconstruction with support from a wide(ish) sextile with Neptune in Pisces.

Lastly, it’s worth noting that soon after the Pluto’s initial shift in Aquarius in 2023, the North/South Nodes begin their transit of Aries/Libra. ….

Lights, camera, action!

 

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