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Anyone experience Pluto conjunct moon at the 29th degree in the solar return?

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I know this triggers big turning points .. my mom did pass away 5 months ago now and we’re all still grieving I know I’m not finished yet but this 29 degree is alarming to me especially in my 7th house in Capricorn 💔🫠

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All of these are pointing to divorce and then my 2025 has saturn placed there .. scary thing is my husband has my moms solar return chart that she had the year she passed away and I’m most likely gonna be on anxiety meds forever 

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@mirandag I'm sorry you're scared. Saturn in the 7th is more likely to represent commitment.  I'm sorry about your mom. Hang in there!

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@elsa thank you .. I just feel lost I don’t feel like even being on this earth anymore.. I wouldn’t do anything stupid but I’m just hurting

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@mirandag I'm sorry. This sounds like Saturn in Pisces, fear. Try to have faith!

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@elsa I’m trying, thank you Elsa!

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I told my husband we’re getting divorced am I crazy? He’s denying it and i feel insane lol but bc of this solar return it’s written as divorce so I’m done before it happens 

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@mirandag I just went through the worst relationship transits of my lifetime. I had Pluto Dsc forever. My Venus is sq Pluto and has been for what seems like forever. Saturn took me to hell and 3 key family members died. During all this before and after... Uranus slung me across the country and away from the people I love more than my own life. 

But.... divorcing my husband was the last thing that was going to happen to me. I made sure of it. I was aware, I came here and people talked me off the ledge. I accused him of cheating when there was nothing ...not one piece of evidence that proved any of that to be true..... (Transit paranoia)

My point is.... the people that were not supposed to be in my life did fall off. The people that needed to be distant in miles were. The reasons for all of it are clear now. And I was afraid during most of it which went on for years. But I am still married .... he just walked over to me 10 minutes ago and kissed my forehead and said... morning baby, I love you. 

I have half my birth chart on angles so when Pluto strikes, it's hard and for a long time. 

The first time I did get divorced. Uranus was conjunct my dsc at that time. I sat and held my breath as I watched my DIL go through the same transit and she and my son are still married. It does NOT have to mean you're getting divorced. 

Saturn is heavy, more like commitment and sometimes burden and depression too. I just went through that as well. Saturn square my moon hurt so bad. A deep relentless pain that lasted for some time. 

I am sorry you lost your mom. I did too during all this. When you lose your mom, you lose your anchor, and it is so painful. Try to hang on. And go toward your husband... the best marriages are the ones that get to the other side. 

If there is a way for you to do it, go talk to a grief counselor or a trusted friend. I talked to Elsa. A grief counselor wouldn't have known as much about me. When it finally came to a head my DIL died. This was more than I could hold in. So, I called Elsa... I cried as though I had been gutted and she understood, she listened and when it was done, (she let me be done) I had relief. I was able to go back to taking care of my family .... and put the lid back on. 

I know you don't know it right now, but you will be okay. I'm so sorry you are going through it. I just did, I know how it feels. Sending all the good energy I have this morning Miranda xo 

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@soup I am really sorry you got cut so deep.  Really, I have seen tragedy; suicide and such, but I have never had a young person, simply die, sitting on the couch in front of the tv. Never mind, one I had known for YEARS.

 

It's the kind of thing that makes me want to punch a wall (which I have only done, one time in my life). For the frustrating rage, because you can't bring her back. 🙁

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@elsa Completely healthy and fine today. Sits down in front of the TV and dies. Sitting up.

I stopped talking to people. They ask me a question; I give them this kind of answer and they act like it could not be true. Some of the things that have happened to me or the people around me are so impossible to believe. I wish it weren't true. But it is. 

Every one of us still in shock. My kid and his... well they will never be the same. I just know that I was holding all that in and I had to call. A pressure cooker. I didn't want to fail my family and I could not help them if I was emotionally off the reservation. 

I have no idea how you listen to all this human tragedy, and it does not take a toll on you. Or maybe it does. It probably does. I know you could feel my pain easily. I know for a fact you felt it as I told it as deeply as I did and was able to ground it and get me back to where I needed to be so I could help them. The line leader cannot be hysterical!!! 

Earth. Virgo. Capricorn. Necessary energy I need in another person to function when the X hits the fan. 

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@soup it makes sense... bump up against something solid. Like beating your clothes on a rock.

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@soup oh wow I’m so sorry you went through all of that … I know that was devastating and for your son and his kids omgosh 🙁 my condolences 🙏🏻

I’m trying to hold it together trying to make sure my dad and brother are okay, but my dad disrespected me a lot here lately and I’ve given up so much for them I mean so much I left my career to help build his business up sell it and sell the houses we’re still in the middle of trying to do.. my dad had 200,000 dollars in the account when my mom passed and emptied it now I’m barley paying myself to help him build his account back up.. I’m losing my mind and the feeling of security, my husband keeps saying I choose them over him and my which is ridiculous, but I don’t wanna lose them either… I talked to my mom about 30 times a day with my dad bc they were inseparable and my parents lived next door to me this was how are houses were    🏡 🏡 🏡 mine is the first one my parents in the middle and my brother on the other side… I know this is a dumb representation, but just showing how close we were and lived right next to each other .. I feel like I’m missing a heart beat,  and every time someone calls they mistake me for my mom bc we sounded so much alike since I now answer the business phone and that was her job… I miss her so much and I wish I never looked ahead on my charts I’ve got coming. They look super depressing and chaotic. But I know what 12th house placements feel like it’s natural for me, with my sun, mercury, and Jupiter there but idk I know it’s inevitable bc death always comes around.. what I hate most is everytime Jupiter goes to my 8th house, I have to look forward to someone passing away that I love so much, it’s really painful.. I just don’t know anymore … like I’m going to have to worry every single time it goes to the 8th house 🤢😫

 I do have a therapist and I have talked to Elsa and she helps a lot, but I can’t even afford to buy my son a cake for his bday this year so I can’t pay for a reading I just try to learn as much as I can but it scares the hell out of me .. I was so close to having everything and life goes to shit in a minute.. I have so much regret 😭😭 I just want my mom back so bad .. thank you for responding and I’m glad you made it through with your husband that gives me hope ❤️‍🩹

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@mirandag I'm so sorry you miss your mom. ❤️ 

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@elsa it feels like I’ve been stabbed in the heart I don’t feel right with out her and my dad treats me like shit bc he’s expecting me to do the same as my mom and I can’t, how can people who are all mentally not okay take care of each other .. I can only be strong for so long. I show y’all on here my weaknesses by spilling it out just to vent but no one here sees my weaknesses bc I act strong and keep going but I’m on my way to just breaking down. I also have a therapist and a psychiatrist to help me through this. But I can’t get anyone else to do it and they need it. My dad leaves and goes out he comes home drunk and is ignoring getting a colon cancer test because he wants to die. My brother is on coke pretty bad now too and already got in trouble for it. I have to have a good life but right now it’s crumbling down

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@elsa and my husband needs me on his side which I am but I want everybody to be okay

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@mirandag I think you need a boundary. I don't mean this in a critical way.  If your dad doesn't want the test, it's his business, not your failure?

Try to sort what your true responsibility is. Getting your dad to stop drinking and care about his health is not it.  Can you work on drawing some lines that define this stuff?

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@elsa I agree with you 100 percent… it’s hard tho bc of the situation and how close we are and have always been this is going to be extremely hard but I know I’m gonna have to set a boundary.. a few

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