Forgot to mention that I had Tr Pluto simultaneously applying square to Sun and Jupiter in my early years as well.
I believe in the natal promise and that Tr cannot bring types of encounters not already promised to us.
Anyway, when I had Tr Pluto in 3rd square N Pluto a few years back, I stopped talking to most of my relatives. We had a flaming row beforehand. Natally, my 3rd is ruled by a debilitated Saturn, in my 10th but almost conjunct my 11th cusp. So I had always felt that my relatives were an obstacle to my aspirations.
People see Tr Pluto as terrible complications and I’m not disputing that this is what it is in most lives. However, Pluto gives us the chance to start over, to renew ourselves, if we are willing to put aside whatever pre-programming and neuroses we have, to work on ourselves.
@estella It's unfathomable what infants and children go through with these "early on" outer planet transits. Maybe it helps someone to later find astrology and make sense of it, which is a positive.
@sophiab you can say that again.
My childhood was a Pluto transit. I was so amazed when I was 19 or so, how easy life could be. I had no earthly idea, prior to that!
@sophiab I found astrology around the time Saturn transited my 12th for the 2nd time. The first time was in early childhood, with Tr Pluto simultaneously.
It was triggered by a P Venus P Mars in N NN (anaretic degree of Virgo), which I needed to make sense of.
What about you? When did astrology find you or you it?
I grew up under a Pluto transit from birth. Life was heavy, felt heavy until I got a respite in my late teens, which I enjoyed hugely, and made the most of. But then Pluto ticked over to my 12th house and I seemed to melt into the shadows again.
As Pluto crossed my 1st, I started reconnecting with friends I hadn't seen since my late teens/early twenties and I started having real, honest fun again, until Pluto started squaring the planets it passed over when I was born.
It sounds depressing, but this is normal to me, and what prompted me to learn astrology in the first place, and I wouldn't trade it for anything.
@plutolover Love your handle! The only way to survive and thrive after outer transits is to process the experiences and figure out what the universe wanted you to learn from them.
With a nod to Uranus on AC, my Pluto transits taught me that family = complications, 1-1 = complications AND if I want to have either, I have to sign up to be a stunt driver AFTER the horrific car crash - to borrow @sophiab analogy.
I also have Chiron with 1 degree of my DC. It doesn’t help me but it makes me good at tending to others.
@plutolover I like to hear this. I have 3 fixed sign kids and Pluto will be all over them over the next years so it's always helpful to hear from people who have taken the energy and built themselves up with it, grew accustomed to it, and ended up thriving because of it. Thank you!
@dolce You're welcome! I've got a fixed sign son, too, and I'm gently trying to teach him how to delve deep for his power, though he dealt quite admirably with Pluto rolling over his Merc and Chiron, he's just assimilating all that now.
I am 33... and after reading all these discussions n living thus far... i have a sense of doom... no light at the end of tunnel.. no idea why am alive... but to tolerate my insufferable birth family and be challenged by different strangers on my authority...
@vdn Don’t feel that way. ? There’s still a lot of joy and pleasure left in life.
Speaking as an inhabitant of the dark, there’s beauty to be had in the simple everyday things. I’m grateful for little things like having a 20 minute lie down in the middle of the day or maybe a well-made second cup of coffee, when I need one. I’m happy when I find a real “meaty” story to escape into on Netflix. It helps me when I need to temporarily forget what it is that is weighing on my mind. I don’t watch much TV but I’m grateful that mine works when I do want to watch it. Little things.
@estella this is so true. When I'm having a very bad day, I make sure I am grateful for small things - even if it is my bed at the end of the day! Something that has always stuck with me was 'Maybe you have to know the darkness before you can appreciate the light'. It may sound glib, but it's true in my case.
@plutolover Maybe I read it or maybe I thought it up, but having a gratitude journal helps to lift one’s mood. If we can list even 1 thing that is good about our day, over the course of 100 days, we will start to feel better. ❤️
@estella Absolutely. It's generally accepted that adopting a habit over at least 40 days starts to become an ingrained habit. I don't use a journal, but I make sure every time I do some yoga, to incorporate 3 things that I'm grateful for on that day. I really think it makes a big difference ?