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Tam
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If you have this placement what kind of experiences have you had?

While I have wonderful older neighbors that are financially well off not many years go by that someone isn't bothering me in someway. 

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One of my best friends has it. Her father committed suicide when she was 15, after they had lunch on a Sunday and she found him ( never knew why ). She has Pluto in the 4th square Mars, Venus in Aqua in the 7th. Her family dynamics and relationships  are filled with Pluto themes. I saw her transform dramatically these aspects of her life. She s an anesthesiologist, very driven (Aries Sun) 

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You have this, natally, Tam? (Sorry, I have seen your chart in the past, but it didn't stick in my memory.)

I'm having this by transit - newish transit. So far, my ordinarily intense feeling nature is slightly more intense, and yet less bothersome. I suspect this is due to the opposition, by transit: my natal Mars, conjunct my MC, is in fact benefitting (feels like) from the Pluto opposition transit. I.e. Everone annoys me, some of the time, all my life. For whatever reason, less so, since this transit. hmmm_gif

One thing I know about Pluto: sometimes, it represents things that are deeply important to us. E.g. the Pluto in Cancer generation, home and homeland, and the values passed on by their parents & grandparents, were as seriously important to them as life itself. Extreme responses, when a threat is perceived in a Pluto context.

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Yes I do love the Pluto in Cancer generation, good points Poppy. My 4th house Virgo Uranus/Pluto/Moon conjunction is also square my Ascendant/Descendant. 

Two of my neighbors have committed suicide but not at home thankfully. I have been stalked. People get obsessed with me sometimes, sometimes they drive around my driveway which sets off my PTSD. Lately I have had unwanted attention at my mailbox. I'm seriously thinking about only driving up to the mailbox not walking to it but then I think that is nuts. Not looking for sympathy but it's not an easy placement.

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I have 4th house virgo pluto opposite moon/chiron conjunction and square mercury.

I've moved house about 7 times since saturn opposed my moon in 2008 combined with the pluto transit to this T-square and then over my cap sun.

My last apartment I left after a year (as of yesterday by the way) because I was feeling like a bug under a microscope. 6 neighbors all circling me, plus a hovering landlord. My scorpio stellium went nuts.

One of my favorite apartments was in a giant warehouse space. Even though it was in a really rough neighborhood I felt safe. I made big sculpture and hung out on the roof watching the city. It was like my fortress of solitude. My mom never visit she was too scared. I rented a little country village house I also loved, with my scorpio fiance. We broke but I stayed there for 10 years, until 2008 when the virgo landlord passed and his kids raised my rent through the roof. 

Prefer to live without roommates because I get overstimulated in the outside world and need serious quiet time. Right now I have a gemini boyfriend with scorpio moon and we cohabitate between each others houses.

Have a 12th house saturn I'm sure that ties in somewhere. 

Overseas travel solo also works well for me.

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Tam, please pay attention to your gut feelings. If someone living in your area might be tiptoeing into unreality about you, I really really hope you'll be alert and ready to react effectively, defending yourself. Scorpios don't hold a trademark on spidey senses, hey?

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