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Is there someone you see between charts that make you feel the parties are in for trouble?

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I don't know any people personally, but I have an idea of what a bad aspect is for some... 

Mars Square Pluto (I took many a beating with this between us) (ex) People say, you're mean. I say, broken ribs, black eyes, concussion, miscarriage, dislocated shoulder, broken nose, split lips... I have a box full of ER receipts. I guess I should have been less bitter and more forgiving. 🙄 God bless the man that I was young. Today? 💣 

Moon Pluto - conjunct, square or opposition. (Obsession) (both people are obsessed) 

Anytime Neptune is funky.... the deception and delusion. Lies! 

I would look at all of this first before I got too close to anyone.

Of course, I am a lifer with this one and if anything changed, I would never have anything to do with a man again... but hypothetically...let's say I am starting out and know what I know now. There would be NO Mars Sq Pluto. Ever. It's dangerous. I know firsthand. Sure, the sex is off the charts but then they try to knock your teeth out. 

 

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Interesting about Mars Square Pluto.  I did a synastry chart for a tragic couple from my hometown, pillars of the community until one day when the wife killed the children and herself.  Her Mars squared his and her own Pluto, her Mars opposite his Moon, her Uranus square his Mars.  Their composite was one huge stellium in Cancer and Leo all trining the Moon and Uranus.  Something snapped.

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@warped We both had Mars Square Pluto and in Synastry had Mars Square Pluto. The very last of it was ... he snapped. I was locked in a small bathroom with him. My Children outside the door screaming. My oldest called my mother who arrived ready to take him down.

Now, my parents knew. My children were scarred forever. And I ended up in the ER with a multitude of injuries. If my oldest son had not intervened, I would not be here. So, that is why I took my children and lived with nothing > to escape the horror.... it was not the first time. It was almost my last. I was injured from the back of my head to the tips of my toes. And I didn't have the strength to fight back. I was 100 lbs. soaking wet. No match for that. The Sag snapped. 

The 10-year battle came after. I fought back. He would never touch me again. And the kids... He would NEVER put my children through that again. 

Pluto conjunct my 4th house sun transit. 

Tragic. Yes. But beautiful too. See, I became me that night. I became strong. Strong enough to do it ... take care of my children alone. No help. No child support. I was able to step up where I never would have before. That is Pluto... take you down if you won't do it yourself. My kids moved from a beautiful home, pool... wanted for nothing material. We were now poor. But that is okay because we are strong and were able to rise up and get out of poverty and survive it all. They remember everything and treat their wives well because of it. My oldest still takes care of his ex-wife. 

My boys and I became a triangle of strength. I am ashamed they had to hear that. I am ashamed they will never forget it. I am ashamed I didn't have the strength to get them out of there sooner. 

The oldest never speaks to him today. The youngest, rarely. Phone or text. 

That was my Pluto transit. I will remember every detail for the rest of my life. It feels good to finally type it out loud. In front of anyone that wants to read it. It has been a source of shame most of my life. Me. Not strong enough. Weak. I let that happen. 

We looked like pillars of the community. Inside my home, terror. Horror. Hiding bruises with sunglasses and long sleeves. Knowing what my father would do, I dare not tell. Somehow, I believe the kids did not know. They knew everything. So shameful. So much embarrassment. So weak. So stupid. Feels good to just type it and release it.... 

He has sun Conjunct Saturn. The rules are the rules, and you will follow them. 

When my current husband met me, I had a black eye. 

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You have no reason to feel shame.  You weren't weak, you were just trying to do what was right, maintain the family, until it became impossible.  You raised two fine young men -- be proud of You!

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@warped You have such a kind heart Warped. I wish you everything good. I really do.

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Ditto! ❤

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