Midara, I loved your post about the Leo love wave. I married a man with his Mars and Venus conjunct in Leo, in his 5th house no less* <3
About that conjunction - he gets what he wants, plain and simple. It's remarkable how he wakes up in the morning and just starts getting it. I think he plans everything in his head the night before? What a novel idea... But seriously, there is an incredible efficiency in his ways. He knows what he wants and there is no lag time for him to start achieving his goals. His drive is completely off the charts. And he has many of creative outlets.
In regards to the Leo brand of selfishness - I used to tease him about being an only child (but stopped that, because he hates it) because sometimes he does have a tendency to act like the world revolves around him. I'm pretty easygoing and glad to have my world revolve around him, so it works for us. His mom is a total superhero too, so he's just used to getting his way, because he can. But he's really not selfish at all. In fact he is always anticipating what will make other people happy (he's a Libra after all) and planning with his loved ones in mind. Then it's just got to be his plan. I laugh sometimes when he says "we're going to do this, and then we're going to go there, and then we can have this" because it sounds so bossy! But more often than not, he's already accounted for my needs, wants, and then some - so we can just go!
We have a ton of great synastry, including my Mars, Venus, and Uranus all in easy aspect to his Leo conjunction, and his Neptune and Pluto as well, forming a grand trine in fire, with support from air signs. I believe that his Mars/Venus conjunction really helps to pull myself together too. It was like a jolt of electricity when we met.
*Just looked up some other charts, and my brother also married someone with Mars/Venus conjunct - in Virgo. Go figure.
Okay I'll weigh in here. I have Venus and Mars conjunct in Leo. It's not super tight, Mars is at 21 degrees and Venus is 26 degrees.
Love and beauty are central motivators in my life. I'm definitely not shy about going after the things I want.
I've always been a creative person and active supporter of the arts. I go to concerts, films, and other events all the time. I've gone to great lengths to see certain bands I really wanted to see.
I am always thinking about relationships even when I'm not actually in one. If I'm not dating anyone, I'm thinking about how I can improve myself so I can have better relationships. I can get dates really easily if I try, but if they don't make me feel great about myself I'm not going to stick with them. That's where the Leo "royalty" problem comes in. The conjunction squares my AC/DC axis. This influence plays in my life whether I want it to or not, because I tend to be single most of the time and sometimes it'd be easier just to stay that way! But I'm a romantic at heart. And I'm attracted to both men and women.
I agree about having a "sharp edge" in love, I have to hold it back sometimes because coming on too strong is definitely my natural tendency.
My son has this aspect. He’s young but i definitely see him as having an aggressive personality. His Venus in conjunct his exact Mars/Sun conjunction in Libra. It’s also conjunct his midheaven and moon. In his 10th.
He does enjoy the arts. I try to expose him to it all.
I look forward to seeing him mature into a man.
I have Mars (11 degrees) and Venus (4 degrees) conjunct in Pisces.
I agree that the readings online for this conjunction are not satisfactory. They are too vague and tend to always talk about how the native has a balance between masculine and feminine.
The truth is that this combo makes you overly concerned with romance and idealized partnerships. My best friend has Venus/Mars in Taurus and she has the same problem, so it's not just because I have Pisces going on. Although, I will say that Pisces makes me want to be really at one with my partners. Suffice it to say, I have had a lot of relationships where I was wearing rose tinted glasses, and the relationships totally unraveled.
I am a gay man and in the gay world, I am considered very fluid. That is to say, I can be very masculine or very feminine depending on who I am with. I understand men and women really well. My best partners tend to be fluid like I am. If I end up with a guy who is too masculine or too feminine, I will balance the polarity by shifting to the other extreme. If I stay in that extreme too long, I start to get depressed. I like relationships that allow me to use both energies.
I idealize new partners like crazy. If I fall in love with them, I can easily become consumed by the relationship. On the other hand, the plus side is that I feel relationships deeply. For me, nothing is as ecstatic as being in love. Unfortunately, most men reject me because I am too intense about it. I try not to be, but I can't help it. It's not that I'm creepy or overbearing, it's that it's very easy for me to be loving and vulnerable immediately, no matter how many times I've been hurt in past relationships. Most people have trouble bearing their hearts and I wear mine on my sleeve, although over the years I have learned to be a little more cautious.
The men who I had long term relationships with experienced a lot of magic, they told me. When we had sex, it was like tantric union... because for me love, passion, sweetness, lust and sex are all intertwined. I bring all of me to bed and not just my "sex" side. So when sex happens, my partners experience a complete opening on all levels, and it gets tantric. It's rare that I have a boyfriend despite always wanting one, but it's because I can't be with partners who aren't willing to have this kind of union. Compartmentalized sex makes me feel really awful about myself, and so I can't partake in hookup / casual sex culture at all. My sex drive is powerful but sex has to be holistic or I simply can't do it.
I feel that the reason why Mars/Venus people are so obsessed with romance and love is that they already have tantric union going on inside of themselves, so they are looking for an externalized version of it in a partner. That's why we tend to see idealized romance everywhere, because we already have the idealized thing going on inside of us... we just don't fully realize it until we unleash that energy in a human union. But if you think about it, how can you recognize something unless it's already inside you? It's a case of misattribution. What we see as divinely perfect in a partner is the same divine we see in ourselves. And still... I can't stop myself from being with someone else.
I feel that if Mars or Venus are in their dignity, then the other planet will benefit from this reception. In my case, Venus is exalted, which strengthens the union. Unfortunately, being in Pisces, Mars gets watered down. I feel that my Mars could be stronger. Venus is the ruler of my chart and Mars gets some power from this, even in its watery state. There is something sort of tragic about this conjunction because it's never exactly perfect. One planet will always be slightly better off than the other, whether by essential or accidental dignity/debility. Even if both planets are peregrine, one will do better in any given element than the other. I feel this is reflected in relationships... all of my relationships have been almost perfect. It always has this "almost" energy to it. The perfection never lasts or there is always a confounding factor. And then this makes me turn inward, and I find perfection with my inner connection to the divine... for a time.
The problem is that humans are dual and they will never accurately reflect the non-dual divine perfection that Venus/Mars people are already aware of. That's why we are moths to the flame. Relationships consume us and then spit us back out because they will never add up to divinity. I don't know for sure yet but I think the ultimate lesson of this conjunction is inner tantric union, so that we are complete on our own. Then we can be with partners who are also experiencing this completion on their own, rather than looking for partners to complete our internal union. It's the difference between co-dependence and autonomy.
When Neptune transited my Venus, I was in repetitive delusional relationships, but they were extremely beautiful and spiritual. I thought I had found my life partners, that's how deluded I was. Then the relationships blew up and ruined me. The thing about Neptune is, you can never tell what is illusion and what is real. To me, Neptune is the worst of the outer planets. At least with Pluto you know there's a radical death/rebirth happening. With Uranus, you know that the chaos will reveal something. With Neptune, you think you've found the holy grail but you may just be sitting in a field talking to yourself. It's seriously impossible to tell if you're really "there" or not, which is what I hate about that planet. Everyone I knew, the activities I did, and the lifestyles I lived... all the things that I thought I had found "home" in during my Neptune transit, are all gone, as though they never happened. On the plus side, my Neptune/Pisces transits advanced me spiritually 1000 fold and showed me cosmic beauty that I could have never imagined. So that was the gold I took away -- nothing material, but some elevated spiritual values. All because Samsara fucked me over a bunch, as it tends to do.
When Neptune moved onto my Mars, I got extremely ill for 2 years, but I'm okay now. I almost died, and in this near death state I saw the truth of reality, of consciousness, of all those Neptunian things. But it was really, really hard. Also, my relationship to my sexuality changed and I became a lot more ascetic / celibate. I am not a monk but now I am super selective about who I share energies with.
I think Mars/Venus people are really sensitive. I've met a handful in my life and they all have a very special way of seeing the world. Many are psychic and feel very deeply. Many struggle in the dating world because people find them really beautiful but don't know how to treat them right. Mars/Venus people are what you call "the total package". They are sex, love and power all wrapped in one, and they will act like moths to the flame... so you shouldn't enter into a relationship with them lightly. If you betray them it will shatter their soul.
I hope this info helps.
so lovely and so true. my sister has this, and she's never afraid to love. i'm very similar too, but a bit cautious since my mars is earthy, but houses and aspects really change all that. for some reason. lol Once i know he's it (example) due to connection, a feeling, and it's weird -- i know beforehand. I can tell by energy, vibration, or the way they act with me, and the bonding, I dont care how or if i get rejected. I am so happy to want to be with them forever. ^____^ you are very fortunate to have this. It's very good u are selective too.
Wow Chiron, I could have not said it better. I also have this conjunction in Aquarius, and NN is also conjunct Venus. We do feel very deeply and we want a tantric experience in bed.
But I sometimes wish I had Venus trine Mars instead of conjunction, I think it would make life easier, emotionally speaking.
I don't seem to attract a lot of men like you would normally think with this conjunction, so I don't know what to say about this part.