What are some aspects,house placements,planet placements,etc that makes one violent,I know alot of things depends on transits as well,but what are some aspects or placements that would make one violent or potentially violent for sure?
i'd say sun/moon square mars, mars conjunct/square/opposite pluto, mars in aries/taurus/scorpio, mars in the 8th.
Having Uranus in a stressful aspect to Mars would trigger an explosive temper that is easily set off by anything. Saturn in stressful aspect to Mars could either be having control of oneself or the Mars part could feel like everything and everyone is trying to make them conform and could lead to a build up until an explosion happens. Uranus on the AC can make a person hard to get along with because they are abrupt and changeable. Scorpio/Pluto on the Rise can make for a person that is never to be messed with because well, we all know their reputation. My grandmother was a Scorpio with Capricorn Rising and good gracious, woe betide anyone that angered that woman! She kept her "ducks in line" and no one dared question her. She also had a Taurus Moon which made for a triple case of stubbornness and do as I say. But I always got along well with her and I was her favorite grandchild due to being her first grandchild. I suspected the main reason is that I was a well behaved child and knew instinctively not to cross her.
tarnishedglitterr said
i'd say sun/moon square mars, mars conjunct/square/opposite pluto, mars in aries/taurus/scorpio, mars in the 8th.
Yes,I've heard those placements could cause great anger.
But I think Mars square Uranus and Mars Square Saturn could be just as deadly as those if not deadlier,as Uranus is unpredictable,and Saturn is pent up frustration waiting to blow.
Tonya said
Having Uranus in a stressful aspect to Mars would trigger an explosive temper that is easily set off by anything. Saturn in stressful aspect to Mars could either be having control of oneself or the Mars part could feel like everything and everyone is trying to make them conform and could lead to a build up until an explosion happens. Uranus on the AC can make a person hard to get along with because they are abrupt and changeable. Scorpio/Pluto on the Rise can make for a person that is never to be messed with because well, we all know their reputation. My grandmother was a Scorpio with Capricorn Rising and good gracious, woe betide anyone that angered that woman! She kept her "ducks in line" and no one dared question her. She also had a Taurus Moon which made for a triple case of stubbornness and do as I say. But I always got along well with her and I was her favorite grandchild due to being her first grandchild. I suspected the main reason is that I was a well behaved child and knew instinctively not to cross her.
Yes,I just responded to a post where I thought Mars in a stressful aspect to Saturn or Uranus could be just as deadly as Mars in hard aspect to Pluto or deadlier.
Uranus is just so unpredictable,that a person with Uranus hard aspect to Mars when angry is capable of anything because it is so unpredictable.
Saturn is more so reserved,but I look at that as the "Incredible Hulk" because they will be a bit reserved but when they blow all of the frustrations they have been holding onto finally unleash.
Pluto in the first also could make one have a violent temper.
Your grandmother sounds like a tough cookie!
positivevibes121 said
Uranus is just so unpredictable,that a person with Uranus hard aspect to Mars when angry is capable of anything because it is so unpredictable.
Saturn is more so reserved,but I look at that as the "Incredible Hulk" because they will be a bit reserved but when they blow all of the frustrations they have been holding onto finally unleash.
Pluto in the first also could make one have a violent temper.
I have all 3 of those. I'm not violent but I do have a temper (doesnt everyone?). I'm lucky I have Mars in Virgo which tones it down a bit...earth is slow and not as easily angered but the square to fiery Uranus is still the emotional equivalent of trying to suppress a thunderstorm at times. The Saturn square which is the tighter aspect for me controls it, and the most Mars in Virgo does it unleash a verbal tirade or go to a deep freeze while Scorpio Pluto plans to deliver consequences stone cold. All of this is not helped by having Moon in the 8t house except it's in Gemini, so again there's detachment which is helpful to me.
Its important for anyone Mars/Saturn to not let things fester.
Family members with actual violent temper have Mars in Cancer square Aries Moon, and the other one has Mars in Cancer square Libra Pluto and another fiery Leo Moon. Cardinal is more explosive than mutable. Fire is more explosive usually than earth or air.
I think any difficult combination of Mars with Pluto, Uranus, Saturn can do it. Interesting Elisa mentionned Jupiter....Jupiter does technically expand...
A dangerous person I know has Aqua Mars square Scorpio Pluto (and a stellium in Scorpio) very watery chart with Moon square Uranus, emotionally volatile too.
For me looking at the Moon is important too because it will also show how someone deals with their emotions and how emotionally volatile they are which is a part of this problem.