@elsa I’m pretty horrified when I see kids have fits because they want sugar, candy, everything. It’s almost as if they’re heroin addicts. I mean, I know they’re kids. I know I had candy when I was a kid and my mom baked a lot but there were limits.
Ice cream isn’t ice cream. It’s “frozen dessert”.
There’s such a dearth of knowledge and there’s no curiosity.
But consent. Yes. That’s an apt term.
It is a key concept in this, as I've mentioned many times. I am trying to convey something very important. Just please keep it in your head. I do not consent to drink, monster. I do not consent to the v. I do not consent to the invasion of privacy that comes with your app...
This is deeply important. They tell your dumbass and if you consent, they are in the clear.
This is in their spiritual paradigm, which is not ours. They do tell you and they show you. It's on you. They have to tell you and show you. They are telling you here. SPELLING IT OUT. Then the parent buys tge shit, and they are in the clear.
@allie120 I don't mind. I desperately want people to catch on. This is applicable to everything.
On the monster, that kid that stayed will us, drank that shit like water. I would not buy it for him. Did not want to be complicit. My husband bought it for him.
But at one point, I asked. "Why do you drink that shit? You're a Virgo!"
Well he didn't know what was wrong with it. I told him it was horrible for him. No comment!
Next time he visited, no monster. "No monster? "
"No, I quit drinking it after you told me..."
I was shocked. I thought he thought I was an idiot.
You see, he didn't know. But when he did know, he withdrew consent." Think of the affect over time. Life changing, really.
@elsa Yes. People don’t know. People didn’t know. I didn’t know things. And then when you know…wow. And then I know I must not know more things I have no idea about.
I’m so glad you gave him that experience: saying no. Then telling him about it. And it stuck. That’s 💡!
It's obvious, but not really. If what you are eating or otherwise ingesting is making you sick... taking a pill for the symptoms just stacks on top. It's very hard to find a doctor who will address the actual underlying cause. They approach it like you have bad luck or something.
I have gone to DO's exclusively since my 20's. Recently I had to remind my doctor he was supposed be treating me from this alt mindset. He heard me and I methodically ditched one medication after another. The clarity is nice.
@elsa I can see that. From birth, therr is a certain model presented to and used by people so anything outside that isn’t often in view as an option.
The gal who teaches the exercise class is clearly health conscious, drinking her mint water, like Henry taught us when we were kids.
"I have family members who ate themselves to death. I told them! They said, if I can't eat what I want, then I want to die!"
That's consent and it's applicable to more than food. Smoking, drinking or whatever, but also bad relationship patterns and all kinds of things. The person accepts the consequences.
But now we live in society where the majority of people accept (or deny) the consequences... and I'm talking about the ruin of your soul. Your soul, your body, your spirit... this is so common, you have to voice your different view (to your doctor).
It's so bad, I say, "I don't want drugs," and the person assumes the exact opposite. That my statement is a ploy to get drugs.
God, but it's twisted. And if I suggest they pull up my Rx history, they won't do it it. It's very hard to navigate life right now, due to all these factors. It really can be seen as a game; dodging bad guys and people who unwittingly (perhaps) do their bidding.
I am always amazed at the people who will opt for a drug instead of an less side-effect inducing, more natural remedy. For example apple cider vinegar instead of the numerous acid reduction prescriptions. I have known many people not willing to even try it. I think they like having a medical issue that is considered more legit and taking a prescription makes it more legit. Sure it might not work and you can use the Rx.
@jana I don't know that the person is necessarily at fault. They have a symptom so they go to the doctor. The doctor treats them with a drug...never mentioning the symptom might be caused by... too much caffeine, for example.
This happened to me, 22 years ago. I took medication for this problem, including $20 a day meds... for more than two decades.
When I could no longer tolerate the side effects, I went off the drug. I instantly found out, I don't have the condition the doctor said I did. Wrong medication given, with side effects for 20 years. Thanks, heaps!
These days, the doctors are very likely taught to treat complaints in this way... never address the underlying cause. This assumes they even know there is an underlying cause. Not a safe assumption in my mind.
Most people are conditioned to go the doctor and get fixed....a pill to make it better. This is what I am saying: people like this are the majority now. You must let your doctor know, you want a more natural approach. You also have to find one, willing to offer this kind of care.
I think doctors (and nurses too, probably), were badly affected by the pandemic. What master are they serving, see?
Find yourself an old fashioned doctor or one with brains and high morals. Otherwise...
@elsa I totally agree. I can also see how we did this to ourselves, collectively. At some point we (not you or me specifically, but the majority of people, in the past) stopped taking the advice of doctors to improve diet and exercise. The doctors got better results when they prescribed medication. This fed back into the data, and doctors stopped talking about diet and exercise because it was scientifically proven a waste of time. Now here we are and the whole system is unrecognizable from how it was, say 30 years ago - I've witnessed this in my lifetime. This was explained to me by a doctor 10-15 years ago, and I've had it in the back of my mind to make sure I let my doctor know that I can do hard things. Like, just give me the homework assignment on the rX paper, not the pharmacy order. In all honesty I was maybe too resistant taking meds, and I'm now taking one that I wish I would have gotten prescribed sooner. Hindsight is 20/20. Better safe than sorry though.
@cocopeaches I would replace "data" and "scientific" with "profits". Also, nutrition isn't taught in med school so unless the doctors take their own initiative, they wouldn't know otherwise. Further, they are obligated to follow the hospital's protocol (i.e. profit driven pharmaceuticals) or they can face consequences, so their own self preservation also stands in the way. Med school is expensive.
@tbb Yes but it wasn't always like this. How did we get here? I do think we (majority of people, over time) were complicit, largely influenced by TV ads. Doctors didn't really need to know nutrition when food was just normal food, and it wasn't so easy to overeat. It's not that complicated: a calorie deficit is still the only way to lose weight.
@cocopeaches Elsa recently posted on this and someone responded linking a book by a doctor published in the 1970s that warns about this. It has worse ed since. For example, in the early 1980s, iodine was removed from bread and replaced it with bromine. Bromine, fluorine, and chlorine (yes, in swimming pools) are all endocrine disrupters and displace iodine, the 4th halogen. Breast cancer, autoimmune issues, and more have increased. You can find some good information on this and other related issues by checking out the Weston Price Foundation ( https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-diseases/the-great-iodine-debate/#gsc.tab=0) and checking out the work of Dr. David Brownstein, specific to the iodine issue. That is one of the major ones I have uncovered.
It is exceedingly difficult to find "normal" food. I shudder at what the likes of Monsanto is doing to us. Minerals have been almost completely depleted from our soil. I listen to a lot of Barbara O'Neill's seminars via YouTube and have followed several of her recommendations. One of those is taking about 1/4 teaspoon of Celtic sea salt first thing in the morning. Doctors have all falsely turned us against salt. Well, salt is required in order to truly hydrate. It pulls minerals such as magnesium and other electrolytes into your cells, and water wants to follow those. I drink reverse osmosis water in my house (to get rid of the fluoride, chlorine, and other crap) but therefore need to be sure to supplement on minerals. Celtic sea salt is particularly high, with 82.
We are being bombarded with toxins. Anytime you get sick, it is your body's way of removing toxins. Doctors are taught to surpress symptoms via pharmaceuticals. Well if your body can't detox via the original way it wanted to, it is going to store those toxins and try again, but in a more severe manner. If you want to support your body's natural elimination of toxins, provide antioxidants such as vitamin C (our current daily recommendation is just enough to prevent scurvy. I'm taking 5-10 grams per day) and support your liver, which processes toxins, by taking enough magnesium. Our bodies are made to heal themselves. We don't need chemical interventions. We need nutritional support and unfortunately we have the added responsibility of constant mindfulness that we need to detox because it is coming at us from all angles.
I don't totally agree with your calorie assessment. You need the right calories. If you are eating toxins, those are going to be stored, a lot of times in fat. Here is another article on the subject but that barely scratches the surface: https://www.westonaprice.org/book-reviews/good-calories-bad-calories-by-gary-taubes/#gsc.tab=0.
If you question everything you (and I) were taught, it is amazing what there is to learn and how freeing that is. (This is all compliments of Uranus and briefly Jupiter transiting my 6th.)
@tbb I did not say that all calories are created equal. I was trying to say that when you avoid highly processed food, getting proper nutrition is quite simple.
I grow and preserve fruits and vegetables, and my husband fills our freezer with venison every year - as much as we are able. We live on land with good clean well water. In our neck of the woods our biggest concern is PFAS, which is pretty serious. We rarely eat out at restaurants. I was not raised like this but I chose to adopt this lifestyle even though it's a lot more work, because I feel it delivers a higher quality of life than luxury and convenience - which is what I was raised on.
I don't use tiktok, but I think #ingredienthousehold became a trend on there. That's how I shop, and that's how I eat 90% of the time. It's not our fault that highly caloric food-like products are (were) cheap, convenient, and designed to hit all of our taste receptors. It is our fault if that's what we choose to eat because finding real food is too difficult. I've been learning from Sally Fallon's cookbook for 15 years, my milk farmers are Weston A Price evangelists, and I do appreciate that info. I still take it with a grain of (Redmond's Real) salt.
@cocopeaches ah thank you for elaborating. I misunderstood your comment "a calorie deficit is still the only way to lose weight" as over-simplification.
It sounds like you work really hard to eat real foods and avoid the convenient but toxic junk. Well water must be so nice! And I have actually been using Redmond's toothpaste 
@cocopeaches here is the article that I mention of Elsa's: https://elsaelsa.com/astrology/hows-your-medical-care-going-these-days/
If you scroll in the comments, IBY posted this:
“Confessions Of A Medical Heretic”
by Robert S. Mendelsohn M.D.
https://archive.org/details/confessions-of-a-medical-heretic
I actually read the book after I read IBY's comment and it is eye opening. I was born in the '80s but the veil didn't drop for me until 2021. I have been rather obsessive about learning all I can about maintaining true wellness ever since, and took it up a notch when my dog died in early 2023.
@tbb Thanks for sharing this! I love that it's available on the internet archive. Sorry about your dog. 
@elsa I think once you understand how "medicine" is set up in the US, it is your personal obligation to learn how to treat yourself. I have a feeling Saturn in Aries is going to clamp down on this.
I think they like having a medical issue that is considered more legit and taking a prescription makes it more legit
Agree. It feeds their hunger for attention.