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Agenda for 2025: stop with all the pining, get myself some real stuff. I am so done.

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Natal libra Venus sq Neptune; but progressed Venus in Scorpio within 3 degrees of Pluto (in Scorpio). Another example that progressed stuff works. Smile

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Posted by: @nona

I dont think parents tell their kids much.

Truth!

 

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@elsa I learned about Perimenopause through a YouTube stylist who wasn’t sure she should even talk about it on her channel… I was like WTF is perimenopause and why hasn’t anyone ever mentioned it to me? Then it got me wondering did my grandmother not talk about these things with my mom- or my aunts? And then when I mention it to them, “Oh, yeah that’s a thing”. Learning about perimenopause is what sparked my whole health kick- I should have been taking this more seriously in my twenties!! 

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@bar-in-the-sky families / generations have been driven apart.  I can't tell my kids anything. Fact is, I don't dare, because I think it raises the odds they choose the other option, to distinguish themselves / rebel.

I learned soooooo much from old people when I was young.  Inheriting your parents / grandparents wisdom is your birthright but people have been socialized to feel an elders experience is worthless.

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@elsa 

I wonder if the extended adolescence in our society is partially responsible for extended rebellion beyond the traditional family starting age--which in the past started the return of young adults appreciation of generational wisdom. 

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@jana Maybe. Yes. But what is the cause of extended adolescence? I would argue, lack of parental involvement (everyone is online).

Also, everything done for you! I know I'm an odd example, but when I was twelve years old, I had to go in a grocery store with a twenty dollar bill and feed my family with it for a week.  I had freaking responsibilities. Now, many kids expect uber or doordash to bring them whatever they want, and someone better pay for it!

BABIES need everything done for them, not 12 year olds!

So they plug into media, which programs them against their parents 'round the clock.  Divides them, as always. One thing it will never do, is tell them to grow up, so there you go.

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@elsa 

Agreed on all points!

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I was just like your children, "choosing the opposite" in defiance, until I married and embraced all things traditional. 

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As a homeschooler, I taught my kids to learn. So by the time they "needed" information, I knew they knew how to find out FACTS for themselves.  They had the internet. Before it was gaslighting. I would just fill in the spiritual, esoteric, personal ancdotal parts. Now the boys think they know everything. My daughter 40 still listens. My aquarius genZ is on a completely different program.  I "drop" important non-triggering truths I think they will need in the future, hoping it will lodge somewhere in their psyche for when they need that piece.

In order to not lose credibility, I remain mostly silent and am VERY careful how and what I say. Because I want their trust when the rubber meets the road, and I'm still not sure they will listen. I  am demonstrating accuracy in the big picture, hoping that builds trust.

I have studied vaccines deeply for 44 years. 4 DECADES. I have the receipts. So do many others. On the plandemic;  My only statement was: "Please wait. If it's true, we will SEE and KNOW it's true." 

I found myself accidently way too close to the Ollie North debacle. That's when I was forced to wake up to the lies. It has been lonely, waiting for others to catch up. I would rather be wrong.

Just last week, I leaked to listening daughter the next level of my understanding.  

I waited 4 1/2 years to have that conversation.

I am having a very difficult time even getting this to type. Is my keyboard broken? Or something else? Yikes

 

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The landline lady was really nice. Virgo doing myofascial release for people for thirty years.  12th house sun Saturn w/ Mars in Scorpio. I bet she's fantastic.

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@elsa That sounds so good right now.

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@elsa I recently tapped into Human GarageTV on YT. Myofascial videos. They even do a weekly astrology video. It is profoundly powerful. My 12H gets it!

 

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My brain feels so fried right now.

My mom called me around noon on Friday saying she fell and couldn’t get up. I called her local emergency services to get her help over there. My brother called Mom’s neighbor to unlock her door. Mom was able to talk to me, nothing bleeding or anything and she was worried because she was just about to put cookies in the oven, so the oven was on.

My husband and I were able to talk to get her to keep the phone open while help was there so we were able to talk to the EMTs. Mom was just unable to get up off the floor. They took her to the hospital. So my husband and I took off for Syracuse then.

Nothing broken, bleeding, nothing. But she is in the hospital until Monday for now. She hasn’t gone to the doctor in 10 years, so basically everything done to her this weekend is now baseline. They found some minor concerns but nothing actionable except a UTI and dementia and PT/cortisone shots for her knee. She is being moved into a rehab facility following discharge from the hospital (so, this week). We are having a meeting with the care coordinator tomorrow.

My husband and I had to return home today, as he has a trip this week. We’d gone out to be with Mom, not knowing what was happening, other than she was in the ER. My brother is there, too and will be tomorrow. 

We knew she had dementia because of many signs but to hear the doctor say it is advanced, well, that helps us to know how to communicate more effectively. This situation has presented us a great opportunity for help, as we can offload so much onto people who can help, in terms of expertise and resources. I mean, how does one manage their mother when she would not go to a doctor. Would not bathe. Yes, tell her the doctor can help. Tell her she will feel fresh and much more comfortable if she bathes but she just tells you she can clean herself (I think she is afraid of the water and the “lady spying on her upstairs”). How much force does one use on an adult? That was always the issue. Mom is from a generation who didn’t go to the doctor unless you’re almost dead. 

So my brother and I feel guilty for not knowing how to do this but now there is some relief that she will be forced to get help. I know that sounds awful. We are up front about her going to a rehab facility to get stronger and get help for her knee. 

But she will say, I want to go home. And we will say ok but you have to go to rehab and they will help your knee and use a walker. She’s ok with that. And she was convinced she was getting knee surgery even though I had been telling her she wouldn’t. She can get a shot for it. She’s good with that. But then talks about going home but selling her condo. You all know what it’s like I’m sure. We just give her the best information, agree with her on the whole “lady upstairs spying on her”, and just try not to make trauma for her everyday by giving too much information.

The dementia is so much more astounding with her being in a different setting. Her world is usually very very limited.

So I will have a better sense of exactly where she will be for the rehab phase (with memory care most certainly the next phase). And I will be going out there to help out again very soon, probably this weekend.

I am so grateful for my husband, too, for being there and being a person a little bit on the outside of the family dynamics that my brother and I have with Mom. It’s as if you see  your parents one way for your entire life and even though you know they are individuals and adults, there’s that time in their lives where they need a certain type of authority and that’s a bit tricky. So a person outside the immediate family can offer that perspective. Hopefully that makes sense.

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@allie120 How utterly overwhelming. I am so sorry your family is going through this. And I feel bad for you mother.. ugh.

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@elsa Thank you so much. I am feeling positive about her getting some relief and them helping her be as strong as she can (realistically this is probably just being able to use a walker to get about a little). However I don’t want her to be afraid or feel lost. 

Thank you again.

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I guess the upside is that my mom is a talker and storyteller so does often serve as a diversion for her.

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@allie120 That is such an asset. Other’s around her will love listening to her stories. It will form friendships, and she won’t be alone.

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@allie120 It is nice that she’ll be getting some care and assistance. Although it’s still emotionally challenging for all, it’s being handled in the best way possible . It’s lovely that your husband has been such a wonderful support as well 😊.

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@hades-moon Yes. We are still awaiting bed availability on one last place. That and the reviews and we will decide which one. There are a couple close to my brother so that will be better for him to go visit.

I’m going out this weekend and getting her more clothes, taking carenif the food in her condo, go visit her, then probably start packing up a few things we know she won’t be able to take. Her condo will just be there for now until we get a better idea of things. She will be in rehab (I’m thinking months? My guess…idk for sure). Then memory care facility. 

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@allie120 It would be lovely if availability came up in your preferred location. Bless your dear, mom. Such a big transition and busy time for all. Sending you all positive thoughts and wishes.

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@hades-moon Thank you. It looks like we are near a decision and it will probably be temporary, which will give us time to find another place long term for memory care. It’s all going to wind down eventually, with us selling her place at some time.

Now we just want to make her as comfortable, with whatever items she needs and wants with her, depending on how much space she has (not much, I’m sure). 

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@allie120 yeah, being comfortable as possible, with familiar items around her will be helpful.

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Driver for my husband, who is getting a pain shot. Sitting here remembering years of horrible pain, I no longer feel. I'm so grateful, I have no words.

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@elsa I hope he’s feeling better!

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@allie120 Yes, thank you. It seems to have helped him quite a bit.  I hope the relief lasts awhile!

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@elsa Me, too!

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