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How Do I Break Up Cleanly With My Scorpio?

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Hey Calliope,

When he told me that he loved me, I was a bit taken aback as it came as a surprise to me after he was playing around with me for a while. I didn't say it back to him. If anything, I have told him that I loved him before when we had sex and all a long time before during when we were playing around. But it was just sex so maybe I was confused. Now with him actually saying it more and more and being more "serious" about it, I'm trying to pin down how I feel about him. I don't know lol. I know I like him alot and I think about him alot. But on the basis of love, I don't know the extent. I'm very serious about love lol and I definitely don't take three words lightly. 

A couple days back, he did call me and initiate contact (thank God lol) and when I asked about why I didn't hear from him so long he mentioned he was sick. That sounds like a flimsy excuse? But we ended the call on a good note because I told him what I wanted to change and he seemed okay with it and we are working better on communication now. However, today he seemed to not be in such a great mood and got into somewhat of a pickle. 

I guess maybe lasirena was right lol from her horary reading? 

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A couple days back, he did call me and initiate contact (thank God lol) and when I asked about why I didn't hear from him so long he mentioned he was sick. That sounds like a flimsy excuse? But we ended the call on a good note because I told him what I wanted to change and he seemed okay with it and we are working better on communication now. However, today he seemed to not be in such a great mood and got into somewhat of a pickle. 

I was curious to know if you shared your feelings with him, I'm glad you did smile 

Nobody but you can figure out what you feel for him or how deep is your love. I'd very much like to help you, but it can only be done by you alone. Maybe the whole situation that was held until now on a non-committed basis confused you and now that all of a sudden you decided to get serious, you don't know how you feel. I think it's understandable. You were all these years afraid to love him for not being loved back. Now he says he loves you and you have to get rid of that fear that held you back. You repressed your feelings for so long. It's only normal that now you are confused. Maybe I'm wrong, but it is a possible interpretation for you feeling confused and not being able to realize how you feel about him anymore... But if it is like this: that you are confused for blocking your heart all these years waiting for love, than you could try to take it as it is and it is normal to feel confused. Only in time and only with self-observation you will get clarity and be able to see your heart among all those clouds that gathered there. 

As for his explanation: feeling sick. It could be like this. Why not? Maybe it was not  a physical sickness, you could ask him more. Why would he lie to you? Especially as he said he wants to get serious about your relationship.

I guess he has good days and better days. Many times reactions have little to do with the other person, but ourselves. Scorpios are very emotional and moody. I am like this myself even if I'm not a Scorpio. When I'm not feeling well I'm not such a pleasant communicator even if I try, I transmit the vibe... not a positive vibe. Maybe it's what happens to him. There is definitely an entire world of emotions inside him. Does he share his inner world of emotions, worries, thoughts with you?

I really believe in deep communication. I think you should try to talk as clearly as possible about how things work between you. For example, if I were you, I'd really tell him about silencing me for two weeks... I understand he felt bad, but you felt confused and all that long silence made place for all kind of thoughts written hereon this forum. You felt worried, but afraid of rejection. We don't know how he felt... He only said he felt sick, but definitely he had thoughts and feelings during this silence too. I'd really talk to him about all of this and about a new basis for this new start for both of you. 

Do you leave in the same city? Having a long distance relationship could make communication more difficult. 

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Thanks, Calliope!! ? Yeah, I think you have some good points. I'm definitely scared of lots of things and maybe that's blocking me from processing what I truly feel about him. 

If he was sick, I don't understand how that would have prevented him from texting me maybe every once in a while. But perhaps he had stuff going on that he doesn't want to talk about or he was being stubborn. 

He doesn't really share his inner world with me, so I don't have a full grasp of him. 

I have a hard time trusting anyone. 

Lol true open communication- men hate that. I will have to get on the phone with him on that or talk to him in person. 

We are pretty far away from each other about 40-50 minutes away. He has his own place but I don't so to him that poses issues. For some reason, he won't come visit around my area for date activities. We had a little tiff about this yesterday. ?

Thanks for your advice though, Calliope! ❤️

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If he was sick, I don’t understand how that would have prevented him from texting me maybe every once in a while. But perhaps he had stuff going on that he doesn’t want to talk about or he was being stubborn.

Maybe he had inner issues… and needed time to process them. Maybe he didn’t want you to worry. Maybe he was testing to see how you’d react if he retreat in a silent mood. There are lots of possibilities. He is the only one who knows Why. I’d ask him directly. I'd be curious to understand his behavior and maybe this could give you more clues about his inner world. Scorpios are known to give honest answers, at least the ones I’ve met so far.

He doesn’t really share his inner world with me, so I don’t have a full grasp of him.

I know from experience Scorpio is a sign that needs time to open up. Also, it is not a sign that comes to talk to you about their issues, somehow you have to get closer to them… and ask the questions. At least, this has been my experience. They are not the ones to start talking about what’s bothering them, etc. You have to be observant and get them talking. It takes really much patience and time for them to warm up and open. I’d say if you want to know him deeply, you’d have to get closer and closer… step by step… Now that I see you live far from each other, this is something that makes it a bit more difficult, but not impossiblesmile

I have a hard time trusting anyone. 

It is a normal fear especially if you’ve been betrayed before. Take your time and be kind to yourself. If you are patient and observe yourself, this fear will start to slowly vanish… I think it’s a healthy approach too to take your time to build trust. I know Scorpios are like this, maybe he is just the same as you.

I will have to get on the phone with him on that or talk to him in person. 

Yes, definitely. You have to talk more in person. In this way you can look into his eyes, feel his energy, the hugs etc…  these kind of things that cannot be felt over the phone where there is a lot of space for interpretations. You say he lives alone. What about you going to his place? You’d have more intimacy for discussions too. I’m just saying…

Lots of love heart

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Lila, I have been meaning to tell you I could be wrong about it being the ending of the relationship with Jupiter, the relationships 4th house rulee having power over the issue. Notice I said "may be" a lot in that paragraph. I wasm't sure of it and I should have said that...my Merc is Pisces isnt thourough all the time.  I did look back into the Frawley textbook and he says this 

"‘The end of the matter’: the way the situation will turn out. This can usually be ignored, except in questions about trials, where it shows the verdict, and illnesses, where it can show the prognosis. If testimonies in other issues are finely balanced, it can be worth taking a look at the condition of the 4th and its ruler; but do this only as a last resort: strive to find your judgement from the main significators."

So I should have left that out entirely, but I am still a student of horary, not an expert, so forgive me for mentioning it.  I really should have kept the reading within the bounds of the question itself and not looked for future happenings since that wasnt what the question was.

 

That said, I do not believe he was sick.  He significator is too strong, it wasnt recenly debilitated and it'd not aspecting any malefic. As far as the Moon, it did look to me like you would initiate, because the Moon is you/your emotional self and can and does act... the faster planet is the one that acts.  If he initiated first, and it felt pleasant to you, I have no idea what the Moons next aspect to Mars meant. Again, maybe should have kept the answer withingthe bounds of the question "why has he withdrawn.  

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Thanks, girl!! No worries! ❤️ We just messaged back and forth and got into a fight again over distance. He said he was tired of my excuses and is sick of me and "forget you". So I guess we are finally done. Lol. This will take a couple good cries here and there and I should be okay. Was expecting this as he is not allowing me to do the things I need to do like (pick up my younger sibling from work as they don't have cars). 

Sighs, I feel like such a masochist lol. 

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