From Wiki..
“…In 1664, when she was 15 years old, after turning down many other proposals, she was forced into an arranged marriage to a wealthy gentleman of Montargis, Jacques Guyon, aged thirty eight. During her twelve years of marriage, Guyon suffered terribly at the hands of her mother-in-law and maidservant. Adding to her misery were the deaths of her half-sister, followed by her mother, and her son. Her daughter and father then died within days of each other in July 1672. Guyon continued belief in God’s perfect plan and that she would be blessed in suffering. To this end she was, when she bore another son and daughter shortly before her husband’s death in 1676. After twelve years of an unhappy marriage (in which she had borne five children, of whom three had survived), Madame Guyon had become a widow at the age of 28…”
This is regards to Madame Jeanne Guyon. I’m reading her writing now, it’s fascinating.
I don’t know about these dates. She gives her birthdate as April 13, 1648. Wiki says she was born, April 18th and if depending on what calendar is being used, the date may actually be more like April 28th.
It does seem she’s an Aries with Mars in Aries and Venus in Pisces though. And boy can she write. I am spellbound.
She writes exactly the way I don’t! She writes about being ten years old, in hindsight, from an adult perspective. She’s lecturing parents around how they should raise their kids, using her parents and their mistakes as examples.
When I write about being ten, I am ten. (Heaven I Mean Circle K) I am ten and I think this or that or I want this or that. It strikes me!
if you want something super interesting to read, here it is! Though what she writes is her OPINION, I have a feeling what I read is going to be fact. What kills me is how her opinions transfer to the modern day, with ease. For example she’s not too keen on parents who favor one child over the other(s). You get the feeling she’d smack you if she saw you doing this.
It’s fun, reading someone who writes with exceptional clarity. Modern writers has lost this skill. They just can’t say what it is they think in plain language. Enjoy!
I can totally relate to her .. With Aries Moon Venus Jupiter Mercury ..
& Pluto Scorpio rising, With a Gemini Mars in the 8th house.
I admire evolved Libra though .. I turn to my same age -Both females- Libran cousin when I’m not sure if I’m seeing clearly … Moon Venus squares Neptune .. I appreciate her objectivity & respect for the other .. It definitely balances me out. We drive each other crazy too .. But we appreciate each other’s differences enough to break ground
thanks
I want to cut and paste some stuff, however my highlights are not showing up on amazon yet. Her style is incredible.
I wonder about these old books. They’ve been translated and the skill with which this is done, floors me. How can something read so well in a second language? It would have to be well written in the first place, I’d think.
She has a tight trine from Mars to Neptune and Saturn conjunct Pluto in Gemini. How’s that for your DEEP writing, built to last, bay-bee!
Good translation is an art in itself. Rather than word for word, the translator has to capture the spirit of what’s being said and translate it into what would be the equivalent in the second language. Seems like they did a good job here.
Wow! There was one great thing resulting from French Revolution. Public records on birthdate have been impeccable, since, in France. You had to record not only day of birth, but also the hour. And births had to be recorded soon after they happened.
One of my favorite historical characters, composer Giuseppe Verdi, was born in an area of Italy that was part of First French Empire at the time (October 1813). There is some debate over his exact time of birth, but we can be quite certain he was a Libra Sun, Aries Moon.
I love history and astrology.I will check her out…thanks!
From page one…
“My earnest wish is to paint in true colors the goodness of God to me, and the depth of my own ingratitude – but it is impossible, as numberless little circumstances have escaped my memory. You are also unwilling I should give you a minute account of my sins. I shall, however, try to leave out as few faults as possible.”
“…It shows that God accomplishes His work either in converted sinners, whose past inequities serve as counterpoise to their elevation, or in persons whose self-righteousness He destroys, by totally overthrowing the proud building they has reared on sandy foundation, instead of the Rock, Christ.”
This was going on, observable in the 1600’s and is observable today!
I can relate to that haha.
She writes, she has a strong dislike for anyone who whose ideas are unsound. She’d be beside herself today.
She’s just so funny. When she’s not peevish that is.
She’s a real character, that’s for sure. Her mother liked her brother better than her. I guess he was a prick because of it.
Here is her Autobiography to get started on her writings –
http://www.ntslibrary.com/PDF%20Books/Madame%20Guyon%20Autobiography.pdf
Thanks!
Yes, translation is an art in itself, the translater must be a very good writer.
I agree, if the original is not good, then the rest cannot be good either. (Or, as they used to say in proto-computer days “In shit, out shit”.)
Well, form is one thing, content is another.
Apparently she was an intelligent woman and her clear view is still good today.
I’d like to read this.
I wouldn’t have thought of that had you not mentioned it. Translation has as much importance in preservation as does acid free paper or whatever they use. 300 years plus is a long time; things fade and crumble in much less time than that, and language -which varies from place to place- also changes over time. As you point out, “her clear view” has been constant. I take it as a good sign that people are open to it today. Some things don’t change, even though the world is vastly different today.
I plan to track this book down. It sounds amazing. Thank you for sharing the information!
I just read the diaries of Mary Chesnutt, who lived in the South during the Civil war, after being fascinated that in that time, a woman wrote about the war and was widely quoted in Ken Burns’s documentary. Her story is a particular view of her life and times, slanted to the Southern view of that time of course and you have to look at it in that way. But the parts that fascinated me were her discussions of men, women, marriage, pride, love, vanity etc. Utterly modern — you could image having a cup of coffee with her and discussing husbands, types of character, etc.
ARGH: her name is Mary Boykin Chesnut —- i need coffee! Up working way too late last night.
My husband read her.
The book is $3.99 on Kindle….all her books together… Use the link in the other post.
Read autobio, Sabina’s link. WOW! I loved her spiritual revolution the night she dreamed of Hell, so I went looking for what happens with Neptune/Uranus and imagined it into the Aries Sun, Mars, and Venus in Pisces(Neptune). Where might Uranus have been? In one of the sources I researched, that aspect would confer “great appeal to the masses”…I think we could also say ‘great appeal to the centuries’, or ‘great appeal to the masses for over three centuries’. Amazing to think of others preserving Mme Guyon’s writing over time, relevant then and now.
Reminds me a tad of Charlotte Bronce, the clarity, not the angle. How did you find her?
I meant Brontë.