This is a fascinating interview between astrologers Emily Trinkaus and Dale O’Brian about the natural wisdom of Chiron:

Chiron as the misfit, the outsider, the shaman, and the Serenity Prayer; and Why he discourages focusing on Chiron as the Wounded Healer….and so much more! I found it thoughtful, alternative and educational.

 
This recording entitled “The Fight for the Soul of the Individual” is on Substack, a free app and also available on their website, under Trinkaus’ page The Embodied Aquarian. I copied & pasted the interview below. Hopefully it is easy to open & hear. If anyone has trouble opening it, i should be able to guide you on how to find it through the website or app. 

https://open.substack.com/pub/embodiedaquarian/p/to-fight-for-the-soul-of-the-individual?r=9x4ix&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post