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I don't generally overreact to Saturn in a sign but I am seeing clear signs this will be a rough transit for many.  I feel this so strongly, I wrote this for those who can understand it.

https://elsaelsa.com/astrology/saturn-return-in-pisces-coming-in-hot/

Beyond that, what are these people (who are spinning out) sensing?  What are they feeling? What will we see with Saturn in Pisces?

There are a lot of good answers to that question but one thing that occurred to me... well, this could be wishful thinking on my part. I acknowledge this but this also fits.

There is such widespread deception. It up, down, 'cross both ways, alongside, you name it.  Might these people and entities get checked? I hope so!

It's very hard to get a handle on your life when living in a funhouse mirror mirage. Saturn transits will generally give you a change to get things right.  This suggests that in fact, the veil will drop and then people are going to have to cope.

I realize I harp on this a lot - maybe this is why. It's because it's going to hurt you and I mean HURT you when realize you've been duped beyond your wildest imagination.  On the chance I'm right, I'll just suggest that people face this stuff when it continues to come up and up and up and up and up, in your face.

Saturn in Pisces - Avoiding Reality

What do you expect from Saturn in Pisces?

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What do you think about how it will affect us who have Saturn in Scorpio or Cancer?

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@dori It should shore you up - Saturn trine Saturn. But the rest of the chart should be considered.

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@elsa thank you!

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My 2nd house is all Pisces, my natal Saturn is Scorpio in 9th just 4 degrees from MC.  Does the 2nd house include "all you value" or just income or tangible things or financial stuff?  

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@warped probably all you value. The 2nd rules self-esteem which would be how you value yourself.

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I realize I harp on this a lot - maybe this is why. It's because it's going to hurt you and I mean HURT you when realize you've been duped beyond your wildest imagination.

I don't know if this is too controversial to say, but I can see this happening with all the trans surgeries happening to people/children.

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@shortpants I would definitely agree with this!

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@shortpants this may be what triggers the big reveal.

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I'm low-key looking forward to this transit. I'm Virgo with an extra dose of Virgo & Saturn will not just oppose my Virgo stellium but also transit 7th house, so hopefully the whole authority figure thing will come into play. Which I always appreciate, because these days so few people are willing to provide guidance, even for those who go looking.

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This will oppose my natal Saturn in Virgo and also conjunct my natal Moon. A lot of things have proved themselves to be false to me over the past few years, so it would be interesting to me if this goes further/deeper. 

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Edit to add, this will be in my 3rd house, so will definitely affect the way I process the transit!

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@plutolover Me too, Virgo Saturn as well 👋

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@dolce I'm guessing this will be a period of assessing how far we've come since our Saturn return, and adjustments can be tweaked.

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@plutolover 

Also saturn in Virgo, in the 3rd. 

For me as well, the past years were very difficult in facing false persons and situations. I was feeling crazy as if I was the only one perceiving that some things were completely false. Now I better see this and I can share my impressions with people who also see all these false behaviors and "realities'. I am also more in a position to point out what is true and what is false (although when appearances are created to make this look true :)).

So far it is easier for me as I better trust my own perceptions. I was almost doubting my own perceptions before.

My progressed moon is also in Pisces, conjunct Saturn. I was expecting to feel isolated and depressed, knowing that Saturn is also squarring my natal sun, but not at all. I feel stronger, aligned with my perceptions and the whole process is quite joyful for me at this stage.

Veils are dropping around me, I am contributing to this. I still do not get why people spend so much energy to build false realities, this triggers a sense of desillusion in me but I feel less threatened by this. As if I finally accept to be part of this world despite this ?

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