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For the second time in my life, I have just left a relationship in which I was being gaslit by a male partner. (Who famously did it to many others like me)

For those of you not familiar with the term, Gaslighting:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting

I am getting better at identifying the patterns and pulling out, thankfully.

Does anyone have any chart specimens of people who do this?

Or victims?
Here is my massive semi structured rumination and case study

EDIT wow, there are some blog entries on gas lighting.. But this is more specifically about relationships and the type of people we catch around us doing it.

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As a victim, I have a 12th house stellium in Libra (Venus Merc Sun)
I listen deeply to other people, I lose myself, and my bs detector really needs help,

I suspect people with bad intent and narcissists see this and take me under their wing.
I am highly suggestible, and as a young woman, I am highly introverted and submissive. 
It also means I am a very good dancer though.
But yes, it is the chart of a person who ends up in a ditch.

Some features that bring this out about me, I believe:

- My moon is in a mutable sign (Sag).
- My gaslighter's Moon and Neptune occupied the same degree as my moon.

- My Venus Pluto Midpoint is conj my ascendant.

By this same previous abusers actions, I was sexually assaulted and manipulated subsequently many more times.

 I am ok though. Just feeling kind of distrustful and wierded out. Just using astrology now..

- His chart ruler, Uranus occupies the same degree as my Venus-Pluto Midpoint,

- The other awful partner who gaslighting me had his Ascendant and Moon both conjunct to this same degree, right on my Venus Pluto Midpoint as well.

which is also that of my Ascendant.
(6 deg Scorpio). So maybe this means he was meant to be a psychologically and sexually violating person.

**JUNO IN MENS CHARTS*****
 
It interested me that this man had a Virgoan Juno forming a tight sextile to the cluster, which can be a mans philandering Zeus saying "I want a virginial partner. You Stay right there"

In the case of Gaslighter 2, his Juno formed and exact conjunction to my Libra Venus in 12th. 

Juno, though we look to her for marriage and the mistress ad the spouse, I see a great seed of possession in her.  Like the kind that gets people killed  in trailer parks at worst.
People naively die in and for relationships, people get violent.
When Juno is mixed in a cocktail of questionable planets, maybe we should pay more attention.

There is in any person, I think a murderous madness that possessess one to keep, to own, to blindfold and bind another in a relationship..
As a victim of gaslighting (soft stockholm syndrome), your abuser is your best friend.
Its scary "prehistoric" attachment feelings. 

So, one man (who had multiple partners and was particularly abusive) had his Virgo Juno in opposition Pisces Venus-- A man who wanted a nun, but wants to be with the fish

And the other guy had his Libran Juno conj. his Pluto on my Venus.
He was very attracted to younger, innocent obedient girls.
He liked having many of them at his disposal. He enjoyed owning me and confusing, and enraging me. It was funny to him.

So perhaps Juno can be a good diagnostic tool for abusive bonds. The underside and devolution of marriage is slavery ?

NEPTUNE AFFLICTION AND MC*** The storyteller

I did notice that both have a similar Neptune contacts on their MC...

Gaslighter 1:
wanderlust (9th house) Leo Venus conjunct Leo MC...
So he is born to love (arm candy), wander, and 
Venus is Trine Neptune (2nd).

Yet Neptune is hitting personal plnts:
Opposite both Mars and Mercury conjunction in Gemini 

Gaslighter 2:

Neptune conjunct Moon (9th)  and MC (Sag)

Neptune square Venus, and Mercury in 1st (Piscean)

... also like... is there anything more 007 double agent than a 9th Scorpio North Node ..

& Oddly, the last guy here has a Grand Trine in compassionate water, pah!
(Pisc Venus, Cancer Mars, Scorp Uranus).  

A person who is really "gifted" in water is a master manipulator,
and he had to have a lot of secret partners, a "nephew", and lives a double (or quadruple) life
that haunts me while they comfort him. (Scorpio Node!)

As a fellow Sagittarius moon, I know this last one walks away from a burning building, whistling and admiring the birds in a nearby tree.

So to conclude, I will say that Venus Pluto midpoint indicates where a woman may be liable to psycho-sexual manipulation. .........

and maybe when Uranus shows up there.. Uranus, like a creepy big brother, may take out perversions and conduct experiemnts on a victim, at worst.

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Gaslighting is one thing that says a lot about the one who does it. It's not about the one on the receiving end at all.

Refusing to talk means that they are somehow ashamed or embarassed about themselves. It also means they could not handle you, they felt threatened by you in some way.

It has happened to me and I feel much better for it - although gaslighting itself is pain giving, it usually means the relationship that has ended was not a good one to begin with.

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Whether it's a therapist, parent, sibling or false friend, realizing a person you put your trust in, who seems so sincere about wanting to help you, is actually feeding off your pain and actively sabotaging you, is not an experience easily forgotten.

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Thanks! Total co incidence. I should order the book.

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I have worked with two Virgo women who do this. One was fired for it, and the other is on the same path. They both go from person to person, fixating on hating  and tormenting them. One of the truest displays of hatefulness that I have ever experienced. So sad.

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