redro said
I'd think Moon-Uranus contacts maybe with Jupiter thrown in too

Lol I have all that. Except Jupiter trines so ....

One person's crazy illness can also be one's genius cure.  Depends on Saturn - the ruler of intelligence, and... Uranus - the ruler of innovation. 

How much work do you want to put into it??  Sitting in the shit of your crazy pit.  It's just you, there, with all your crazy friends (ideas).  Talking amongst yourselves.  Fighting, debating, arguing, hashing... re-hashing.  Maybe, looking at the world in a different way.  And, because of that, thinking that you're not with the program. 

But, whose program is it, anyways?? 

Shit, I'd be remiss to be so naïve to think that a chemical nutrient won't right the ship.  Snap, goes the synapse.  And, another bridge is broken.  With creativity, we can build another city.  Create a road, here - an avenue, there.  It's all in the crinkle.

Or, perhaps, it's the environment.  A cultural span??  Maybe you need to find new friends!!??  Get a different family!!??  You know, ones that'll echo the same sentiments that are like the construction workers in your head.  (Have you ever worked a jack-hammer??)

What I'm saying, is, if you're with like-minded and those like-minded are just as "crazy" as you are, and, you find yourself in circumstance and situations which are to be deemed by whomever to be not of a social norm - Blammo/Schlammo.

You've arrived!!!!

It's an epiphany!!  An Enlightening Moment.  A Cause for Celebration!!!

What to do next, you ask??  Figure out who's gonna be King Wacko and who's gonna be Cap't Stupid.  And structure that hierarchy.  We can't have the idiots running the County, now, can we??  And, turn off that godamn blender.  I can't think myself hear.  Fuck...

You might just come to the realization that, all the chitter-chatter is you working overtime on business that was cleared up on the first go-'round of hypothetical questioning that you gave yourself - to yourselves.

Or, were you just, merely, trying to get someone to agree...??

This missive has been brought to you by an "individual" with:

Chiron in the 3rd opposite Uranus in the 9th apexed by Sun in the 12.  (Mercury conjunct Neptune in Scorpio of house 11)

I agree that you cannot just look at a chart and be like "Oh yeah, this guy is nutso"...there is definitely more to it than that.  

I think you have to look at everything in it's entirety.  I do think that something with 3rd house/Mercury is involved because of mental processes, but I do agree with the Moon playing a part as well.  

But not necessarily Uranus...why are you all saying Uranus? Uranus can be unexpected, quirky, genius even.  What about Neptune though? 

As far as aspects go...would you say an opposition would create the right amount of tension for mental illness? I don't necessarily think a square would...how about an in conjunct/quincunx?

mercury/saturn: depressed mentality, mental obstacles & insecurities. moon/saturn: emotionally cold/empty, repressed.

mercury/uranus: wildly uncontrollable thought patterns. moon/uranus: emotional chaos, bipolar.

mercury/pluto: thinking in extremes, dark tortured mind, sees the bleak ugly truth in everything. moon/pluto: explosive intense emotions.

To the person who mentioned oppositions ( im on my phone). I feel like my Sun/ ascendant opp causes me so much tension. I have things like moon saturn that I've previously focused on but i was thinking about my opposition more recently. I feel like when i try to express my Leo, being warm and expressive, it causes such problems. I get impulsive quickly and so i stay trying to be very Aquarian and logical, but it can art times lead to me seeming cold and detached. The reason i mention it in this thread is because you can imagine the anxiety this produces, feeling like im repressing myself ( depressing no doubt). 

I feel like if i was more purely Leo id have a better handle on my impulses... So that's how i feel an opposition MIGHT contribute to mental illness. 

tension/anxiety, push pull, competing, duplicitous nature i think of tight conjunctions jupiter/saturn, planets in 0-3 and 28-29 degrees, anger lacking expression turned inward 12 house mars, yods, t squares, too much neptune....