I see darkness threatening humanity. I mean, I see a lot more than that, but this is my blanket statement.
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@elsa. That's dark. I read that and flashed on all your progressed planets in Scorpio. I see it from another angle - maybe because Pluto is trining my Saturn and sextiling my Sun. (It's also squaring my Venus, so I definitely agree with you - just trying to make another point...)
Dennis Elwell has this idea that we need to look at things from a cosmological point of view. Meaning, what is the cosmos trying to do here with this Pluto in Aquarius??
I think cosmos is trying destroy humanity's dependence on materiality (Capricorn) and stuff, on having lots of stuff to keep ourselves secure. I see Capricorn as Scrooge - selfish, hungry ghost, all appetite.
Cosmos is saying (my guess) that we need to become more detached (Aquarius) and think of the collective, of all life. Value the non-material connection. Share. Is Cosmos saying this is the only way humanity will make it?
I see darkness threatening humanity too. But it's humanity's darkness that is the threat, or our own. I guess we should be glad that Pluto is coming to destroy what is not working, in order to make way for the new. It is clearly not working! It is scary though. My fear is in proportion to my attachment to the old way, to my own darkness. I can feel myself holding on, and that's where the fear is.
It's really difficult to answer this without getting political. I'll just comment from the perspective of having Cancer/Leo with Pluto hovering around the Capricorn/Aquarius axis. I hope that adults will be responsible in protecting children and children will not be further harmed - while at the same time not forced to conform. Issues of identity, ego, community and groupthink abound. As we see the effects on early-degree Fixed energy, late-degree Cardinal energy will need to step up and move society in the right direction while we have a chance. (I say "energy" instead of calling out individual placements because it's a collective responsibility and effect).
It's kind of obvious, but to frame it a little differently, the Leo/Aquarius axis is like the right brain/left brain.
We are seeing the shadow of the left brain dominant occupations. An example would be science and medicine. By the time Pluto finishes with Aquarius it should be apparent the balance is completely broken. We aren't living up to our potential using half of what we have. We need to develop both sides of the brain. It is important for all of us.
I agree with everything that has already been said, plus one additional thing: that there's no refuge. How do you hide from something like this? It doesn't care if you're young or old, good or bad, deserving or undeserving. Aquarius is so damned impersonal. Everyone is fair game. Pluto in Aquarius has barely even begun and I'm already deflated. Imagine 20+ years of this. I would rather face the devil than a souless robot that won't negotiate or cut deals, and has the tirelessness of a robot to boot.
Now I'm being dark! Best stop for now
The funny thing is, I'm having feelings about feelinglessness. What could be more Aquarius than that
@aquarius-lurker In many ways, being detached is a power move. It's just also horrifying, at least to me. Super psychopathic - step back and let people die? Take space, while people die?
Saturn in Pisces and limits to compassion... which is a real thing.
There is a lot to grapple with right now, that's for sure. And things are hurtling ahead, in my view. Yesterday, is more like last week or even last month. But at the same time, certain things never really change, even though it seems they do.
For example, people do need interaction on every level, even though hoards of people say they prefer isolation at this point. They're interacting when stating this! I think the desire to talk and have human contact exists, up until your light goes out.
I mean, we drug them, but what dying person wants to be alone? Crap! The panic.
Being as kind and generous as you can, makes the most sense to me. I'm not saying it's easy, but it makes the most sense, especially if you believe things come around.
But also... well, here's something that happened within the last week.
I work up and there was some bot hitting the site. I have had this site a long time and have quite a bit of protection but this was something I needed help with so I called tech support.
I have been with my provider for about ten years, which is a long time. But they are great! So it's 4 am, just poured my coffee. I wasn't thinking. This is a routine thing... the tech person can determine the ip hitting the site and block it. I didn't need coffee for this, so I made the call and I heard the guy's voice and called him "sir" because I live where I do and it's not just customary, it's pretty much required and I've adapted to that.
It's a standard thing here but I knew immediately, I had made a VERY BAD mistake. Oh my God.
Now this is not comment on this, other than to say, this tech person was infuriated but also passive aggressive. If I was told not to say that, I would have apologized, for sure. But I could not apologize because it was not just mentioned. The call just because excruciating for me.
I quickly decided it was best to take what amounted to abuse, meaning anything else I might say would make it a lot worse and really, I don't care what a person wants to be called or not called. If you let me know, you've got it.
Post this phone call, I will never make this mistake again. If I am making a call outside my area, I will skip the regional manners standards and this represents a switch flipping...
Meaning, I have known this could happen for years now but where age or region or whatever, might be something people understood, I don't think this is the case anymore.
The zoomers, who everyone seems to love (including me) have become radicalized... allowed themselves to become radicalized, which is their business! But I do think they best be respected, particularly when you're dealing with the tech world, which they rule, to a great and growing degree. And again, I have no problem calling people whatever they like, which is why I adopted, sir and ma'am when I moved to the Amercian south.
I note that both sides are equally extreme. Thank God, I'm mutable.
@elsa: wow! awkward! But you did good. I did something similar but mine was in person, and not sure if I saved the situation as well as you did. My interaction took place with the person's mother. I was a guest at a party and told the lady I was sitting with that I had had the pleasure of meeting her son earlier in the evening. The look on her face! I guessed quickly that 'son' was not the right noun. But same as you, it was not brought up, so I couldn't apologize. Or maybe I should have anyway? But then again that could have made matters worse. So I just prattled on and turned to speak to other people with my neutral face on. But yeah, I was mortified. Now, I will support whatever expression of individuality a person chooses for themselves. I will march and picket for your right to be you. But I don't think she knew that, the mother. And I didn't give out any clues either. I just deadpanned because... It's an awkward with no rules in the rule book for it
@aquarius-lurker well, I detached once I heard the voice, flip into high comedy on one level. I figure the person is doing them, and I should be me, but this call went on for an unnecessarily long time, with this drama on the other end?
I was put through the wringer with voice tricks and inanity. The message was, if you are going to do this to me, I'm going to do this to you...
But truly, I just had my first sip of coffee and had no problem with this person at all. In the end, they were effective. I intended to change my behavior within the first 60 seconds of this call.
On my end, I don't think my behavior had any affect at all, outside of not adding to rage.
There was the day my son told me to quit calling him, "honey". I complied with that too, as soon as I could change my habit.
I know there are moms who would say, "you'll always be honey..." but I'm not one them!
@elsa Did the person do accents or something? Anyway, all's well that ends well and that can be forgotten quickly lol. On honeying one's kids, what about the other extreme? Calling one's parents by their first name? When I was a kid I tried that for a day on my mother and she did not like it, chuckle.
@aquarius-lurker oh my God... he did everything imaginable.
Little did he know, he reminded me of this kid I worked with when I was 17 years old. It was a Farrell's Ice Cream. Everyone who worked there was very theatrical, because as a server, you had to perform. Including me, of course. Venus in Leo, I was damn good and could in fact, recite my whole spiel to this day..
"Put down you silver spoons, and raise your golden voices..." I would yell, with my hands in the air... this was to direct everyone in the place to sing, Happy Birthday" to someone...
So... Rocky Horror Picture Show was quite big back then and most the people who worked there were regulars, at the weekend showing(s). So we played the soundtrack when we set up before the restaurant open. Everybody loved it.
So whatever he was doing or thinking, I was thinking, "Todd, is that you?"
Todd was my favorite, kind of the dominant male in there, while I was the insane woman.
This same setup happened in my 20's when I met my friend, Ben. So it's nothing new, that's for sure.
@elsa Chuckle. That's a riot. I mean both the restaurant, and the phone guy.
You know something? If a person has lived, and continues to live, a rich and varied life, it's much easier to detach and roll with things. That's true wealth
@aquarius-lurker that's true. I also think it's my nature. I've been rolling into trouble all my life and I'm always thinking something different than you'd think I'm thinking.
I ended my book at a Fleetwood Mac concert, I was 15 years old. I had nearly been beaten to death a few days prior so my face was smashed, tremendously. I had two black eyes; really my face was just atrocious. You wouldn't even think I got beaten, the way it was. Car accident! That what I would have thought, had I seen myself. I was an experienced, beat-ee.
I went to the concert with a friend and her bf. Then took off, so I was alone... which surprisingly, perhaps, was my preference? They were kissing all the time, of course. Slobbering, which I would have been doing too!
Anyway, I had a great time. I couldn't have cared less about my face. It was completely irrelevant to me.
I just think this is a good example. I also tend to be 'round the next corner from where someone thinks I am. It's not a choice or anything. It's a quality that is part of my design.
As for this call, had I swallowed a few gulps of coffee, it may have never happened... and if not, I would not have this story to tell you today!
@elsa from your story this is what I hear: 'That was a bad thrashing. Phew I survived. Next! What else ya got? C'mon I got people to meet, places to go. Oop to slow.'
@aquarius-lurker Sort of.
This was a *last* beating and in fact, no one has hit me since. So I felt it was a last beating so I was happy.
I ended my book with this scene so it would be a good ending!
So I had a relapse dream. Very common during recovery.