Thanks for reading.
Ok. Here goes my first ever post in ElsaElsa.
After reading JoFrance's guidelines on her Random Thoughts post (how an exchange of 10 posts or more arising is another discussion 'kind of boundary' - thank you for the boundary), I figured I'd start a post rather than hijack more Elsa's post on 'Scary Ride with a Homeless Woman' as my brain is now active with danger/fear/intuition insights or questions (even after a night's sleep.)
Elsa posted a 'Mars in the 8th House Interpretation' post in the past (I checked before starting a new topic - I'm kind of learning better Netiquette) and a couple of posters shared their experiences then.
So I have Mars in the 8th and have some experiences, knowledge, insight that I wonder if other people with Mars in the 8th have. I also wonder what others' experiences are with this placement in general which might be different than mine or unusual and very insightful. Please self-care and don't share if you don't feel like it.
My experiences with this placement (although I also have the Moon in the 8th and Sun-Mars square which could support some of the things written below) are:
-I'm a bit reckless (got better with age) and have placed myself in dangerous situations at work and in life. Luckily I managed all situations (except one where someone else helped me out) and as a result there are some work gigs and environments that are a clear No-No as I get older.
-In my work I deal with trauma (one off, multiple) and abuse (all kinds and degrees of experiences or exposures to abuse) and neglect (all kinds) topics
-I'm aware that people (not everybody, I know) find me charismatic, repelling, intriguing, sexy and threatening (mars is my scorpio rising traditional ruler - I go with traditional rulers only nowadays)
-I sense danger or that an environment is toxic (be it a work place, a home, a town...) quickly
-I can sense anger in all its degrees quickly (my father was always pretty angry - not physically aggressive yet emotionally and psychologically aggressive; my natal sun-mars square reinforces the experience of being exposed to anger and having a quick disposition to anger myself which I've had to work with and will for all my life)
-Mars in the 8th gets angry in an intense and protective/survival driven way (tick)
-I can often talk things through with very angry/enraged people and communicate (the 'Non-Violent Communication' book - the first one written - was really helpful in honing in this skill) yet in most situations if it's not work-related or survival-related I keep my distance and take another route when I see them from a mile. Sometimes one cannot talk with these people (I'm not *that* good)
-I experienced some minor physically inappropriate experiences as a child which took me a long while to make sense of and process as I didn't see it as the traumatic minor and chronic transgression that it was because I was well aware that it wasn't as unforgivable, terrible and harming as rape, assault, child sexual abuse, witnessing these abuses, etc.
-As a result of the previous point I notice when people are trying to get into my space or boundaries via seduction/flattery, bullying, coming across as needy...
-If there is an abuse or trauma story in the newspaper I tend to read it (perhaps not before going to bed) as I think someone ought to honor these stories and hear what happened to the people in them. My husband disagrees yet I think the stories and people need to be honoured by my reading the stories despite how difficult to read they are. Don't know if I make myself clear here...
-I don't think I have a morbid interest at all in the above issues (I don't get any pleasure from reading these topics) yet I am aware that I'm interested in these topics. Every now and then I spend a weekend watching videos of survivors sharing their experience and looking at the charts of these people (if available, at least the planets and looking at transits)
-After I moved in with my now husband the Mars in 8th topic of 'arguing about common/partnership money' became a real thing for me, big time.
-I'm the one in charge of security in the house (my sag rising husband is happy go lucky and lucky): had the alarm installed; check the doors before bedtime; always think of an exit/back door; if there's a noise at night in the house I'm the one who immediately goes to check things out (I'll never forget Elsa's comments in a post on how to behave/be ready in a possible home invasion so I follow that advice.)
-If reincarnation is a thing, in a past life I think I must have been attacked or killed violently as clearly I'm wary of being attacked in this life
-I think (fear) I'll die violently with mars in the 8th (many books mention this) yet I'd rather it's by a car accident or a bad fall and not as a result of violence by others.
Long post.
I'll check this topic regularly in the next 2-3 months to acknowledge posts or respond to people.
I do not have Mars in 8th.
But I can validate your experiences because your post read almost word for word like conversations I’ve had many times with a longtime friend. The only other thing she’s experienced is that she has a tendency to relate to all men (Mars) with sexual responses (8th), even if she’s ordering coffee from a stranger. I think it’s instinctive; given the rest of her chart.
Thank you for sharing, Osiris Wife.
Interesting how your friend has very similar experiences.
About relating to men (or any people I'd add) in a sexual way, well in my case it's a Yes and a No. I'll share an anecdote (which I might have shared in the past here at ElsaElsa, not sure.)
Like 12 years ago or more at a Christmas dinner with my cousins one of my cousins was filming each of us talking to the camera so we could send a video to a cousin who wasn't with us.
So it's all family, right? My cousin plays the resulting video to all of us and I see myself. Total shock. I was totally flirting with the camera and I wasn't intending to do it, at all! And that's when I got that people with scorpio rising often come across as sexual or sexually active (hehe, not my case often when I was single.) This I've talked about in a post here, I think.
So after that dinner I was more mindful of how I came across (I didn't want others to think I was being sexual with them, women or men, if I wasn't intending to do so.)
Since that time I often look at some women and men who seem to be acting sexually towards others (some seem to really want to come across that way) yet I tell myself that they might just be scorpio rising, or have scorpio or mars strong and it's just how they naturally relate without artifice - if you get my point.
Blimey, I guess even at 44 I still have it? Hehe.
Again thanks for sharing, Osiris Wife, and wow that your friend has similar experiences...Mars in the 8th, right?
Yes, the themes are very similar.
She also has 2 other planets in the 8th house which adds emphasis.
I have Mars in the 8th house and I also feel as if I’m reincarnated from someone who had a violent death. I could never explain why. I’ve always been hyper aware of my own safety and felt extreme stranger danger since I could remember.
retains water, thank you for sharing.
I saw your name (down on the page where it says who's online) and thought 'That's a great name!!' 🙂
Same sentiment here. It's always been there too.
A quite handy tool/ability to have in life yet (in my opinion) it also limits some spontaneity (how could it not) but hey, I think we're ok as we are 😉
Thanks again for sharing. Be well.