And this:
- Transiting Pluto Square the Sun: This is an intense transit when lots of raw energy is released. Events or people can provoke you more easily now. What's festering from the past rises up and can be overwhelming. Lynn Koiner was experiencing this when she recommended exercise and getting busy with what's in your control (your immediate environment). Some compulsions can come to the surface, making it a time to find more wholeness in the psyche (after the being crazy part is over). Be alert to fears, as they can become drivers of events, and even cause the feared outcome.
I went through that when I was in college. 19 to 21. It was rough. That's supposed to be a lighthearted, happy go lucky time in life. Not for me.
I went through friend groups like water. I scared the shit out of people. No one knew what I was going through. I was left alone to battle whatever demons they couldn't see.
I came out of it even more of a fighter than I already was. Sun conjunct Mars, after all.
ETA: Pluto already did the dance of death over all my personal planets and the DSC. My whole life has been one freaking Pluto transit, come to think of it. It started in grade school - Pluto conjunct Libra Moon - and never let up.
@lislioness Every word rings true Lis. No one knew what I was going through, and I was left alone to battle also. They suspected but had no idea how hideous it really was.
When I did finally get my strength back, I too scared the shit out of everyone. I was done, it was on, and no one was going to stop me. I was ready for WAR. I was asked, who are you? I said, your worst nightmare if you step toward my children.
Where my planets are placed... a lifetime of Pluto add some Saturn. One big Pluto transit. I completely understand it and identify with all you've said. Mine started early too. I have had periods of relief, but then here it comes again.
@soup My planets are mostly bunched in Leo, Virgo and Libra. So not long after Pluto stomped all over my Moon, he headed for my 10th. Now I'm dealing with an exact square to my Aries rising. It doesn't let up. But this is my life and my chart. I learned to roll with it, baby.
(Funny enough, that song was a huge hit the summer before I went off to college, when Pluto was closing in on my Sun and Mars.)
I've only had Pluto conjunct my 10th house Sun in Scorpio. When that happened I moved to a different state, new job which I hated. Every day I wished for death for months because of a hateful boss and people I couldn't stand to work for who took advantage of me. But... eventually I developed strength, started standing up more and more for myself, got a handle on the job and people respected me. So that transit gave me courage and the ability to rely on myself and not others.
Right now I'm going through Pluto opposed moon and feel this is so much harsher, emotionally devastating because of health issues. Pluto in 1st house. Every day is a struggle just to get through the day and I feel depressed and anxious. Pluto is going to be messing with me for awhile because I have a Scorpio stellium, Midheaven, IC Scorpio as well. My moon is 1 degree Leo in 7th house. Pluto will next square my IC/MC at 5 degrees Taurus and Scorpio, then it will square my 12 degrees Venus in Scorpio, 18 degrees Jupiter in Scorpio, 18 degrees Saturn in Taurus, then 25 degrees Sun in Scorpio etc. Lots of squares which I don't look forward to.
I would also like to kick Pluto out of my 1st house!
@marissa When Pluto was conjunct my 4th house sun I also moved. First to a different state right before the conjunction, then several times after that and finally on my own. Same, trash bosses, learned to rely on myself, got the strength I needed to stand up for myself and my boys.
I know it is said that the transit to the sun is the worst but when Saturn squared my moon it also squared my 4 planet Stellium. I get hit hard and in several places.
When Pluto was conjunct my 6th the people here remember. I was sick all the time and they couldn't figure out what was causing it. I had a huge surgery and at one point... my husband was pushing me through the ER in a wheelchair. It was long and drawn out. Very sick with few answers. I have Saturn in the 6th but no planets in the 12th.
I am so sorry you are going through these health issues. I completely understand. Our health is everything. I wish I could just magically go make it away for you. I can't stand to hear of people suffering health issues xo
@soup I recall. That was a horror. It also seems a long ways back. At the time, it was unclear how this would end. You came all the way back and then some.
@elsa Remember when I insisted they rip those damn implants out immediately? I fought that so hard. I went from being pushed in a wheelchair to boxing gloves. I had to pay cash to have that surgery as no insurance company covers that unless you have Cancer. I was not waiting for Cancer. I knew that was next. That surgery alone cost 10K and I had to drain us... but I got back up and earned the money back. What a nightmare.
My friend who left them in, is now dead. She died from breast cancer. I begged her to have them removed. She did not.
People with 8th house planets or a lot of Scorpio have to die a thousand times. It's ridiculous.
@soup Ugh, hate Saturn. It squared my 3 planets in Scorpio and right now it's squaring my Neptune & Mercury (ruler of 6th house of health). And I'm going through Pluto in 1st house opposed my moon. I feel like I've been going through death by a thousand tiny cuts.
Progressed moon been in 6th house for awhile now and lots of focus on my health. I have another 7 1/2 months before it leaves the 6th house. I feel like what you went through is what I'm going through now including mystery ailments but now I know what's causing my health problems but trying to fix it is not so easy.
You got through those times though, so you must be a strong person. I hope that I will also be able to survive and come out stronger for it.
1988 for me. Pluto was opposite my moon.
Transit Pluto opposite natal Moon brings confrontations and manipulation attempts in relationships. Possessiveness, guilt, threats, and jealousy may arise. Be honest and cautious of dishonest people.
Pretty much when the hitting started getting really bad.
Conjunct my Jupiter in the 4th opposite my moon. A lot can be said about this... whew.... I had a hard time from about 88 till 1992.... when so many things changed. Hit bottom. Hit top. If you measure the top being material which I don't but it was there. I was pretty lonely though. I had one focus. Take care of my kids. Period. No sex, I didn't want a man around me. Didn't give a crap about another thing. Take care of these kids.
Good news is I met my husband in 88/89 and he waited for me through the whole thing. I don't know why. I didn't marry him until 98... but he waited almost 10 years. God this man drives me nuts, but I love him so much it's ridiculous. His Saturn is all over me. Like a watch dog. The first time he spoke to me I had a black eye. I just got out of the hospital. We worked together. I lied and told him I was in a car accident. He called me a liar. He said someone punched you in the face, but I won't tell anyone.
He never stopped following me around from that moment. True story. Can you imagine something like this? When I think back on it, I am blown away. Here we are together still.... since 1988. 35 years later still watching over all of us like a Rottweiler. Can you imagine a Pisces Rottweiler?
When I question God or the universe, I think back on things like this. How did this happen. He is a decade younger than me. Watching out for a lady and her two kids? Why? How does this make sense?
When Pluto was in my 6th it took a while for me to figure out what was wrong with me. I was having asthma symptoms, constant problems with upper respiratory issues, felt like walking death...I mean the symptoms were all over the place. I remember starting with an ENT. Then went to a heart specialist. Allergist. Pulmonary doc. Had an MRI. C-Scans. Blood work. Every test a human can have. I even went to the dentist to make sure it wasn't a tooth issue. My kids were dumbfounded. Every test came back neg. Then they said it was autoimmune. And now that... that is not easy to fix. When your immune system has lost its mind, you are sick and it's a hit and miss situation. Something may or may not work to make you feel better. I even tested my work building for mold... what a time. And I kept getting sicker. I changed my diet completely. Ate only healthy foods. I went to Florida and took a Herb class to learn the art of herbal medicine. What a transit.
I was scared all the time. I literally felt like I was dying. I completely understand what you are going through. I am so sorry, and I really understand. I promise... you are going to get through this. You don't feel like you will, but you will.
@soup Thank you soup. You really went through the ringer. I have an auto immune illness Sjogren's. It's definitely not easy to fix. It affects my eyes, salivary glands (constantly feeling parched mouth doesn't matter how much water I drink), energy, sleep. I have gastritis too and it's just been hell for the last 10 months. I had a lot of different symptoms as well and seen many doctors and many tests. I'm tired of seeing doctors now. Just plain tired period.
Like you I got lucky with my husband. Met him in 2011 been with him ever since. He's the only reason I'm still here and fighting to get better. He's always here for me, always caring for me and is the love of my life.
I really hope I can get through this. It's been the most painful thing I've ever been through. It makes everything else including traumatic childhood seem a cakewalk compared to this. One good thing can be said of this is that when I get better I will never take anything for granted again. If you have good health then thank your lucky stars. I know that if I regain my health, I will be so full of joy and dancing in the streets. I never truly appreciated what I had before even my husband. I always loved him but never knew how deep that love was or the depth of his love for me. In that, I'm truly lucky.
I chronicled some of my experience of Pluto squaring my Sun here. I’m not sure the best way to find it but it’s here.
I didn’t realize it then, because I didn’t understand the concepts, but I was going through a type of initiation and having lots of shamanic experiences. Life got strange and mystical. Hardly anyone talks about the mystical aspects of Pluto (probably the Sun too), but I’ve really seen that incredible synchronicities and spiritual guidance can come from Pluto. It’s a transit that really showed me my spiritual path and connected me to spiritual helpers and protectors. It’s a real type of spiritual connection with this life.
Pluto started squaring my Sun about 6 years ago, fast on the heels of squaring itself. It was a strange time, I could literally feel everything slipping away from my control, everything turned on its' head. I was upset for a while, because we all want the good things to last, but I slowly got the feeling that I needed to move on. I distanced myself from friends who were only around when the times were good and turned inward. The transit was mostly over when C was widespread, and I found I had the opportunity to delve even deeper into my psyche/shadow and time seemed to really slow down.
Despite the amount of heartache that knocked on my door, I'm really glad I had the opportunity to learn more about myself and those around me. I also grew closer to my partner, which really was a godsend when the shit hit the fan!