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Is anyone near Baltimore? What's going on?

I read this, two days ago:

"Baltimore is now facing apocalyptic levels of policing shortages. Last week, THREE police officers patrolled a whole district of 61,000 residents. Police are now UNABLE to respond to calls, including for child assault..."

It's just seems "off".

Anyone?

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I'm noticing some pre-loading going on for MD, VA and Eastern Panhandle WV (where I live), just like the commentary on police in Baltimore above. Last week, all of the above areas were on a wildfire alert from the weather services. I'm not the only person (this time!;) noting that it has rained here every weekend since at least the first of the year. Like, that makes no sense whatsoever.

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@sage6911 thank you.

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This is by Lara Logan, who I don't know anything about. It seems well written.

"Multiple intel sources: Baltimore bridge collapse was an “absolutely brilliant strategic attack” on US critical infrastructure - most likely cyber - & our intel agencies know it. In information warfare terms, they just divided the US along the Mason Dixon line exactly like the Civil War.

Second busiest strategic roadway in the nation for hazardous material now down for 4-5 years - which is how long they say it will take to recover. Bridge was built specifically to move hazardous material - fuel, diesel, propane gas, nitrogen, highly flammable materials, chemicals and oversized cargo that cannot fit in the tunnels - that supply chain now crippled.

Make no mistake: this was an extraordinary attack in terms of planning, timing & execution. The two critical components on that bridge are the two load-bearing pylons on each end, closest to the shore. They are bigger, thicker and deeper than anything else. These are the anchor points and they knew that hitting either one one of them would be a fatal wound to the integrity of the bridge. Half a mile of bridge went in the river - likely you will have to build a new one. Also caused so much damage to the structural integrity of the bottom concrete part that you cannot see & won’t know until they take the wreckage apart.

Structural destruction likely absolute.

Attack perfectly targeted. “They have figured out how to bring us down. As long as you stay away from the teeth of the US military, you can pick the US apart. We are arrogant and ignorant - lethal combination. Obama said they would fundamentally change America and they did. We are in a free-fall ride on a roller coaster right now - no brakes - just picking up speed.”

The footage shows the cargo ship never got in the approach lane in the channel. You have to be in the channel before you get into that turn. Location was precise/deliberate: chose a bend in the river where you have to slow down and commit yourself - once you are committed in that area there is not enough room to maneuver. Should have had a harbor pilot to pilot the boat. You are not supposed to traverse any obstacles without the harbor pilot.

They chose a full moon so they would have maximum tidal shift - rise and fall. Brisk flow in that river on a normal day & have had a lot of rain recently so water was already moving along at a good pace. Hit it with enough kinetic energy to knock the load-bearing pylon out from under the highway - which fatally weakens the span and then 50 percent of the bridge fell into the water. All these factors when you look at it - this is how you teach people how to do this type of attack and there are so few people left in the system who know this. We have a Junior varsity team on the field.

Tremendous navigational obstruction. Huge logistical nightmare to clean this up. Number of dead is tragic but not the whole measure of the attack. That kind-of bridge constantly under repair - always at night because there is so much traffic and they cannot obstruct that during the day. So concern is for repair guys who were on foot (out of their vehicles) working who may now be in the water - 48 degrees at most at this time of year.

When you choke off Baltimore you have cut the main north-south hazardous corridor (I95) in half. Now has to go around the city - or go somewhere else. To move some of that cargo through the tunnel you may be able to get a permit but those are slow to get and require an escort system that is expensive and has to be done at night.

For every $100 dollars that goes into the city, $12 comes from shipping. Believe this will cripple the city of Baltimore at a time when they do not have the resources to recover."

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Lara Logan is nutty. 😳 

The astrology: 

It occurred just as the moon aligned with the south node which was visible from the perspective of Baltimore. Mars in Pisces is creating the conditions for maritime disruptions and crisis that could continue to be a theme for the next few weeks.

The Mars Saturn conjunction is literally a car smashing into a wall.

The upcoming solar eclipse in Aries underscores these themes even more because Mars the ruling planet of Aries will be much more closely conjunct Saturn. Of course, the bridge collapse was a worst-case scenario manifestation of this energy. But definitely in line with the astrology.

And everyone should avoid risky situations over the next few weeks that involve water.

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@soup so you think it was an accident? Or an attack?

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@elsa I sure don't deny it could be an attack and that the astrology is ripe for it. I don't discount anything anymore. I mean, as often as I absolutely hate to hear conspiracy theories which she is notorious for, sure enough they are looking for a blood clot in a hospital ER .... in my body because I have things going on inside my body that never happened before that make no sense, my young DIL is on heart meds for life and the other one died at 44 years old sitting up watching TV. So... I think anything could be possible. Also, that was a huge container ship that no one could stop, and other things have hit bridges that knocked them out here in the US not that long ago. So, I dk what to think. But I like to see everything now. 

I used to shut anything down that seemed just too far out there to believe. Then I was tested in a hospital for 3 days because my D dimer came up.... you have a rouge blood clot somewhere and will stay till we find it, take these heparin shots in your abdomen till we do. 😳 

ETA: The astrology? I was just showing off what you taught me LOL 

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@soup I'm so sorry.  Your loss with this is staggering. I can't imagine what you feel like.

On the other, disrupting supply lines is classic. I asked my husband what he thought. He said he didn't know, but the fact the FBI immediately said it was not an attack was suspicious. 

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@elsa I have tried to read as much as I can about what is coming and going from that port. A lot of cars and trucks. There will be delays for sure in that industry. While it is a busy port it is by no means our largest. A lot of vehicles move through there though and we will see some disruption. I just hope nothing leaches into the water or some hazardous material (some biohazard) that would be dangerous to the public doesn't get loose. 

This isn't over. That is what concerns me. 

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I'm along the lines of what Soup said. Most likely an accident but who knows.

The reason I'm burnt out on conspiracy theorists is because I spent years undercover checking out a prepper group with religious overtones. It turned into a Christian nationalist cult. Guy claims he talks regularly to the Archangel Gabriel. I've never "met" a group of more fearful and gullible people. He's not the only one leading groups like this, and honestly, it's terrifying.

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@lislioness It also occurs to me that people like this, in those groups, do things like this too. Not just some out of the country group set to take down our infrastructure, we have our share of nuts right here. It occurs to me daily that half of the country is cuckoo.  

I just keep reading and watching. This is what concerns me most at the moment... we have Mars in Pisces with Saturn dancing...  I have learned to be very wary of Saturn more so than Pluto.  

The US Coast Guard is searching for potentially hazardous materials among damaged shipping containers that were on board the crashed vessel.  

Thirteen damaged containers, “some with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC] and/or hazardous materials [HAZMAT] contents” are being examined by an elite Coast Guard team, according to an unclassified memo from the federal Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. The team is also examining the ship’s manifest to determine if any materials on board may pose a health risk.

And this..... 

There's about 1.8 million gallons of “marine diesel spill potential.” 

So, my personal loss reminds me that.... I know first-hand what happens when people don't do the right thing with things that are hazardous hazmat type situations. Like for example my mother and DIL are deceased and my other DIL and I are personally injured. 

  

 

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@soup I wouldn't be surprised if it was homegrown terrorists. Half this country IS batshit cuckoo. Those people scared me and worse, used religion to justify it. The ringleader was at the White House (not in it but the outskirts...still!) on January 6.

These types want to get their message out there and don't care who (you and your family) get caught in the aftermath.

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@lislioness I know. Sometimes shit happens. An actual accident. Not everything is a conspiracy. Conspiracy theorists like everyone to think they know something no one else knows. They think this makes them seem smarter and more informed than everyone else when in fact everyone thinks they are off the reservation. And there is always an absence of proof. I like facts. I like to deal in facts. I steer away from that kind of thing. I like the law and people who abide by the law. I like facts and science. BS bugs me. 

Historically, conspiracy theories have been linked to prejudice, propaganda, witch hunts, wars and genocide. Used to be nutty fringe people but the internet and media have made it/them worse. 

I don't care who knows it. I am embarrassed for them. 

I will not tolerate a Qanon... period. 

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