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I got a rugby team for my birthday one year...

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This is my team -- seriously. These boys were gifted to me.

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And this is my boyfriend (engineer named Whitey), who was also a rugby player, though not active.

He came to pick me up from work on my birthday and found someone has gifted me a team. 

Awkward.

Then some other stuff happened - outrageous, really. I told this whole story once, not sure where it is though

 

 

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@elsa omg…that’s wild! Whatever you feel about it, it’s incredible! Someone thought a lot of you!

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@elsa and omg I remember that little ribbon we would wear around our neck, like you have!

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@allie120 Arizona bartender garb. Smile

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@elsa Oh that’s amazing. My grandparents moved to Sun City, Arizona in maybe 1973…I’m meshing your native world with theirs (and seniors, too)…wild!

My grandfather always did present Arizona as a really unique place. As an Aquarius, he did seek that out!

 

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I keep forgetting that I am sometimes an athlete. I never did team sports in school or anywhere. I always tried to sneak to the back of the line when it was getting near my turn to go at bat in softball in gym class. I was active, but mostly liked to do solo things because I was intimidated, felt awkward, and shy as a kid. But I just finished a three and a half day powerlifting camp yesterday and wanted to talk about it here, instead of wandering off in the other thread 😃

Every day I would come home and my husband would ask how it went and what I learned and I would just be on cloud nine telling him the lift we did that day but there was so much information that I couldn’t summarize! It was amazing. Amazing. 

It was coordinated by a former weightlifter whose father was an Olympic weightlifter and among his achievements, was a member of the ‘84 and ‘88 USA Olympic team. She was also a star as a teen but training young girls in the early 90’s was rough and they trained them like men. She ultimately suffered many injuries, retired, met her husband who is more into powerlifting, and that’s how she’s now involved in USAPL as Colorado chair, organizing these events, and has also competed in equipped lifting (powerlifting with suits).

We also had a man who has been a world team collegiate and masters coach coach, he owns a gym in Brooklyn, coaches, and has the most zen approach to everything in life, it seems. 

We had a 6x National Champion who also coaches and has coached people to 60 World records and countless other accolades. His two athletes also attended and assisted us. One woman lives here in Connecticut, has helped me at meets, and has also been a ref at some of my meets. She came in second at the Arnold this year and it was awesome to watch the live stream of her lifts. The other young woman is 24, has been lifting for 10 years, has won Nationals, and her bench press in like 320, and her deadlift is 501 🤯

So we had these amazing people to watch us do our lifts, give us suggestions, give us support, with information we can use immediately, and also add things in the future. Everyone says, yes, you got a lot of information thrown at you and if it doesn’t click now, probably a couple months, it will hit you and you’ll have an aha moment.

My immediate takeaways, other than the cues I can start implementing now (positions like chest up, etc) are: push the accessory work (lat pull-downs, hamstrings, etc, etc) even more. Push them to rise to the level of the lifts you’re doing. For instance, make you work more proportional, make it rise to the effort of your main lifts (squat, bench, deadlift). Even try for some PR’s there.

There we’re also times of self-reflection on my part. Out of 13 attendees, only two were under the age of 40. That means there were 11 of us 40+, most of us in our 50’s and three in their 60’s. Some of these women (there were only two male attendees) were incredibly strong. Like, wow. So I’m there with some demonstrating my lifts for the coach, as we all were, and my top sets were 165 squats (we were not going all out). They wanted to see it somewhat challenging to watch how, when, our form was. Then there are women going 235 for three and that their top would be, idk, 300 or so. And while you don’t really compare because these women were bigger or proportionally different, etc and nobody judges, I still had a moment of, why can’t I do that? What am I doing wrong?

And the next morning I woke up and I felt better because I know some things I can try, it’s not a sprint, you can’t compare except to use these women as perhaps something to aspire towards. Working with stronger people inspires.

I am happy that my deadlift was pretty good and after watching my bench, I think the one coach was, like, ok 👍 (He was incredibly helpful on my bench but it’s far, far below my deadlift.) So I got great pointers on how to make my deads better, both styles (there are two was to stand, conventional and sumo).

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But wait, there’s more!

We learned about things like, starting clubs, avoiding burnout, the rule book for competing and what you should know about the back end of a meet and competition as well as the reasons you might get called for a lift (you broke a rule or something), accessory work and specific variations of lifts to help sticking points, examples of programming to get ready for a meet, what not to do: don’t check your equipment if you have to fly to a meet!!!

They told a story about one OG, Susan Elway, who was flying to a meet and they wanted to check her bag at the gate. She said, no way. When they resisted, she but on all her gear and wore it on the plane. We’re talking whatever suit she was using, her belt, her shoes. There was no way she was going to risk having her equipment bag lost or late to her meet.

One also told of how she was competing with her college team at Worlds in Belarus. She said the hotel was sketchy and they were all afraid the room was bugged and they couldn’t read the food packages because they were in Russian. Thankfully they moved to a Sheraton and it was better. 

Also, timing when to start warming up at a meet, what should you lift?

Optional was learning a little about equipped lifting, so I was really interested in that. There are suits you can wear for squat, bench, deadlift, as well as knee wraps (wrapping your knees with long elastic fabric). The suits are super stiff and tight and help get you some rebound. And they are incredibly tight. As in, you need assist or at least you have to hang on a j-hook on a rack to get you in. But you can lift more. And what I learned was that you don’t have to go all in like Ed Coan or Dave Tate. You can get less tight (although still tight). And you don’t have to have your knees painfully tight. I let them wrap one knee for me and she said she wasn’t going to do it super tight (again, it is always your choice how tight) and yes, it hurt a little, it was tight, but doing an air squat, I could feel how it would be helpful.

I took notes, took some video, and pictures. But it was incredible. It felt like I was there for a week but it was good. 

10/10 would recommend if you like to lift heavy things, make yourself uncomfortable, and get sore. 🤣

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We had an entire resistance band session. Crazy! But it was good and since I’m still sore, that’s what I did this morning. Lots of different things can be done.

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Getting some advice on my deadlift. This is conventional stance, the one I use.

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This is a sumo deadlift where the feet are wider. Some people are just build better for this, they prefer it, or like me, I want to incorporate this more in my training as it works different muscles. Strength gained here can transfer to my conventional deadlift and my squat. In this photo, we are doing a box deadlift and it teaches you to raise your chest up, sit back, and it also targets the upper back more.

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This is some squat instruction. That’s my coach, but the other coaches were helping. Chest up! Higher!

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And here are the suits for equipped lifting, squat, bench, deadlift, wraps, and slippers (to help put on the suits).

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And finally, she is demonstrating a deadlift suit. It’s so tight that she can grab one hand on the bar and try to pull herself down to try to reach the bar with her other hand. Once she’s set up, the suit helps you pop up. It’s still another learning curve, though, as some suits are lighter, like a Toyota Corolla, and others are like driving a Ferrari but I’d definitely dip my toe into the the little go-cart sized ones 😂

Hope you enjoyed my joy!

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@allie120 : that's awesome

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Running. Other than shoes, no equipment. You can go alone or in a group. Outdoor or indoor. Rain or shine. You can do it to build stamina or to build strength, and/or. Wherever you are in the world, you can run. They say it's bad for your knees, but I also read somewhere that that's a myth.

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@aquarius-lurker Yes! Very basic.

 

I guess the knee thing just depends on lots of things: genetics, pre-existing issues, general health, maintaining balance and strength in the supportive muscles, good quality footwear.

One of the women in the group at camp was a marathon runner. Then she had a health problem (back, I think?) that took her out of that sport. So she began lifting. She loves it. She also tested to become a referee at local and National level! She’s 57 years old.

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@allie120 : I admire people with the tenacity to do something like weight lifting. This might sound weird to you, but I would be very afraid to lift weights. I'm scared of getting injured. I've been like that since I was little. As a kid I was so afraid of doing gymnastics, I would get my mother to write a note to the PE teacher to let me sit out the class. I got an F! Which the teacher said stood for "Fair" ha ha. I was six or seven.

You're clearly not like that, and neither is your 57 yr old fellow lifter. Thumbs up.

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@aquarius-lurker I hated gym class! If they had just put out a variety of things to do (preferably solo things) I probably would have enjoyed it more. 

 

I started lifting because I liked going to the gym but the treadmill, bike, elliptical were so boring after a while. So I wandered over and just copied other people, with weights I could use. All this is just squatting, bench pressing, and deadlifting- no flipping it over your head! But I also do dumbbell curls, work with cable machines, leg machines. And you only do a little if that’s all you can do. If you can only do an empty barbell to put in your back and squat, or pick up off the floor, that’s ok! It weighs 45#. Or you can use kettlebells. So you start where you’re at, get someone to show you how, and increase weight over time.

I know I love it but I know others don’t and I understand! Deadlifts are super fun…you just pick something off the floor 😂 just like the old gym commercials: “I pick things up and put them down.” 🤣😂🤣

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@allie120 : you make it sound not that bad, actually. What do I have to fear, right? Esp if I have a spotter. Currently, I do use weights for arms and legs, but super light. We're talking 3-5 lbs. Laughable (to you). To me, I feel accomplished.

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@aquarius-lurker You should feel good if it makes you feel good! We all started somewhere. You can always ask for a spotter and you wouldn’t be made to do something dangerous because your coach (or more experienced bestie) would have a lot of faith in you and you would start with what you feel confident with!

 

So, the young woman there (she’s 24 so she’s so young to me!) won Nationals for deadlifting 501#. But remember this! She’s been doing this since she was 14, she has been on her college team, worked with world class coaches, and she is around 200#, an athletic woman. So she didn’t get there overnight!

I remember my first meet when I saw a woman deadlift over 400#. She is a little thing but in my weight class. I was 🤩. I had never seen a woman do that in real life right in front of me! She was one of the coaches and instructors at camp this weekend, and she’s the one who is also my ref sometimes 😄

I just love it. Every single person does their thing and they’re all ages, weights, body shapes, whatever!

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I watched a deadlifting video, just to be sure I know what you're talking about. It looks like a fantastic form of physical exercise! I'm impressed @allie120

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@aquarius-lurker Cool!

It’s a whole body exercise for sure. 

 

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Love baseball! The pace, the food at the park, the commentary on tv; it seems to attract kinda wholesome people. Reminds me of little league seeing my brothers as a kid, eating licorice and Swedish fish. Total summer vibe. I’d live July for multiple months if possible. Minor league games in person really feel like going back in time.

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@pixiedust Baseball is fun and it’s slow enough, in a way, that I can see where the ball is 😅.

 

And what you said about going back in time…I feel this. Hearing the game reminds me of when I was little and had to go to bed early. It would be dusk and getting darker, warm nights, and my dad would sit on the front stoop and listen to the ball game on the radio. The door would be open and I could hear it. If I got up to peak, I would see him sitting there, a silhouette, maybe smoking a cigarette, a beer can next to him, peepers, and an occasional car going down the street.

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