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My husband is newly retired on Medicare advantage? Prior to this, he had private insurance through Frito Lay retiree benefits.  Big difference! 

Back doc ordered a pain short... weeks and weeks pass, before it gets approved, which means he's left in pain. Pain the doctor said, "couldn't be worse".

Our old insurance approves these things in one day.

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@elsa ugh…😐

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@elsa Over 65 here, if you switch to traditional Medicare you will find it more like your previous insurance.

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Plumber was here, he brought a helper who was maybe 20 years old.

He pressure washed our front walk and then rolled sealer on it. I told it looked good . "Is it satisfying?" I asked.

"Yes, but it's tiring."

I was surprised at this. It was less than an hour of work. I am putting his under "health", because a 20 year old should be able to hold a wand and push a roller for an hour and not be fatigued.

Actually, it may hurt my back, but I would not be tired from that amount of work, and I'm old and told I have, Lupus.  wth.

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@elsa wow. I’m glad there a young man doing that work. Not to brag (sorry if it is bragging) but my husband regularly does work on our other properties, using the pole saw and mowing. He mows over everything, small trees, stuff gets stuck, he’s unclogging it. It’s hours of work. And he hunts, which is usually sitting until you get a deer and you have to gut and put it on the truck. And I do yardwork, leaf clearing, whatever needs to be done. I hope this young man just needs some conditioning and he’ll be good.

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In addition, I don’t think we think too much about this because we haven’t stopped doing things and being active. And this is a blessing, because I know not everyone has been as fortunate. Things happen that can take is out.

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Use it or lose it, always!

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@elsa Absolutely!

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Shocks me... my brother in law was in the hospital today, he is a TOUGH son of a bitch.  He's got a kidney stone... hurt so bad, he lie down on the floor.

Nurse walked up and asked him if he'd fallen. "No, I'm just in a lot of pain."

On that, she walked away.  This is health care today. They probably thought he was a drug seeker.

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@elsa That’s disgusting.

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@elsa how disturbing! Most people in the medical industry know that a kidney stone is  a Very Painful condition. Poor guy 😔.

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@elsa 

Thankfully, many in Japan are speaking out against the new Self-Replicating mRNA jabs the gov't is trying to introduce!

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@elsa This article plus many others, make me feel glad that I no longer subject my body to this. For me, the risks outweigh the benefits at this present time.

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I didn't know this. Taking a lot of pills + have insurance? Listen to this:

https://twitter.com/MichelleMaxwell/status/1846994536507363769

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@elsa I didn’t know that either…

I vaguely remember life prior to what we have as our current healthcare system. I can only tell you what I recall as a kid: at some point my father’s company (Western Electric, later AT&T) was getting some new healthcare insurance. My mom would say something about, well we have only this many more visits (or money, I don’t remember) until we get on the plan. I don’t know if it was a deductible thing but it was very new for our family. Previously they always called it “hospitalization”. Now it was PCP. So I assume we previously got a bill from the doctor and paid it, as you would. Doctor bill for kid with bronchitis: $20 (or whatever) and paid it. That’s it.

Enter PCP’s and the entire administrative layers. Superficially, it’s great! But digging deeper and decades later, administrative layers added, Pharma seeing an opportunity, gets a cut, everyone gets a cut.

I could be off. I just remember that things changed. If today you found a doctor that would take your cash for a procedure or checkup, it would be a price based on the very basics: his time, what he values as his time/expertise, his supplies/overhead. Pretty straightforward.

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If today you found a doctor that would take your cash for a procedure or checkup, it would be a price based on the very basics: his time, what he values as his time/expertise, his supplies/overhead. Pretty straightforward.

Jilly and her husband both see a doctor who works this way. I think it's $70 for a visit.  He dropped out of the system.

We also have a pharmacist who left Walgreens to open a compounding pharmacy that sells ivermectin OTC because that is legal here.  You have to be local to buy it, though.

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@elsa That’s good to know. I wonder how the people dropped out of the system. I mean, was it easy? Were there ramifications at first? Or can one just easily say, no. 

That’s a lot of integrity, I believe.

 

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I wonder if Ivermectin is legal in my state? This just made me wonder these things.

We have a lot of marijuana places now. I don’t have anything against it but first it was illegal and then it was legal medically, then recreationally and then only certain people could sell it and it’s regulated by the state and of course taxes. I understand it’s still federally illegal but the mental gymnastics is … 

Honestly, I’d rather buy from some person and bypass the state getting any taxes from it. But I don’t partake at all. 

Just another tangent but not wholly unrelated.

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Although I have had the THC beverages before and I think they’re ok. Not in a long time because I’d fail a drug test if I was testing for powerlifting.

And there again, it’s regulated by the state so…(the beverages).

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@allie120 

This remains a particularly schizo aspect of our medical mafia.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7505114/

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@jana This is wild. Well put: schizo.

I had seen this topic a long time ago. Well, in 2020-2021 (seems like a lifetime ago). It was pushed to the edges of the conspiracy realm. 

Meanwhile, here’s an NIH pub right there that you linked. 

*insert bear smashing computer gif*

 

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There is another more current publication the assembles all the literature but it is a paid site.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38606261/

 

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@allie120

You can do an online consult with any of the doctors on the FLCCC list, and fill the scrip via an online pharmacy on their list of providers.  That's how I got mine back in '21, to be prepared just in case. 

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@warped Thank you!

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@allie120 no ramifications.  The doc quit because he did not want to be complicit.  He's older. He can still prescribe and refer, but has no insurance breathing down his neck, or other professional organizations. 

The pharmacist bought an old Fotomat. I have been there.  It's a little boutique place. 

Walgreens is going down the tubes. Pretty clear medications will mostly be dispensed by mail... and automated. Government meds, basically.  I have talked about consolidation for years. We're near a point where the illusion of choice won't be needed anymore. 

There is hope, though. I hope there is hope. I'm invested in hope.

 

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@elsa That’s good to know! And a Fotomat. That’s amazing 😄. 

The current system must appear to be the easiest to get started in or something. Or maybe it’s presented/pushed as THE system. Payback for funding schools and labs and hospitals.

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@elsa I’m an hour from Mayo Clinic and they control everything here . The small town my dad lives in Iowa that has one of few independent hospitals around. Mayo has been bullying them into joining the Mayo system, they refused and an old farmer worth millions gave all his money to this small independent hospital so they could stay that way. Pretty cool that there are pockets of “rebels”

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@teresa-s we have a lessor situation here, but it's hardcore.  No local doctor will take me on as a patient unless my current doctor clears the way. 

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