I’ve seen and endured a lot of suffering in my life. People like me are typically careful not to cause suffering for others for a couple of reasons. We know what it’s like! But also, if you’re a person who has a lot of things happen to you, you wonder about karma. Especially if you have Capricorn!
There are some people who suffer and make others suffer in turn but I don’t think it’s the norm. How many holocaust survivors have you ever heard of, torturing others? People who have, or have had, real problems realize this is not what you want to do with your life.
I recently worked with a gal who lost both her parents by the time she was twelve years old. Somehow I don’t think she’s out there ruining or trying to ruin other people’s lives. Just on the chance things could get even worse.
Who can relate?
Also I hate when people tell me I’m trying to make them suffer.
One guy who was into me but I was young and didn’t know how to reject said it.
Also my family finds my emotional words unbearable. They perceive my moods snd my need to tell them as me making shit up or trying to hurt them. Wrong. It’s all real and I need to tell someone. Then they get mad when I say alright I won’t tell you. It’s just hard for me not to have an honest relationship with them. The Pluto transit taught me I can’t tell my mom everything and she can’t support me in the way I want. Accepting that is tough
Also sometimes we don’t know what will hurt people. It’s impossible to go through life without stepping on some toes. You become a second class citizen to yourself or it becomes about pleasing others. Plus sometimes when I give others what I think they’d want or avoid doing what I think would hurt them it doesn’t correspond.
I.e. I rarely criticize people or comment on their weight because I don’t like it. However some people want that
I can relate, Kri – my family could not stand me telling them how I see or saw their actions and how they hurt others. So, instead they distanced themselves from “the truth” and thus me. I felt like a freak so many years until I read about Meyers Briggs and the different types of perception and feeling in a person (It is Jung-based).
When I realized I was an INFJ, and read about the struggle these folks usually experience with those exact things you describe, I finally started to accept that I was not a freak, I was just able to cut through the crap and lies and tell it like I see it. I accepted that my intuition is usually on fire, but I am not ALWAYS right, and it was better to say something but not everything.
You sound like you could be an INFJ,but there are free tests available. Perhaps they are useful for you (I am saying this stuff with the best intentions of course,hoping they can be of help).
What about the person who alternates between kindness and cruelty depending on his or her mood? The two people I know fitting this description both suffered a great deal. Did it make them more compassionate people? Often. It also made them more cutting, harsh, and at times sadistic.
Also, some people feel justified in treating other people like dirty, because they’ve been treated like dirt themselves. A part of me gets that, but of course they project all the hurt, rejection, pain, bitterness, poison, onto someone, and then it’s not good anymore. A sad cycle, if you ever see it in real life.
Yep I was watching a joke on the cycle of negativity
It explains it, but doesn’t excuse it, yes!
My son has (in order of appearance) Capricorn Mercury, Uranus, Neptune, Saturn, North Node and Sun in his first house. Because of his father’s military career my kids were moved every two or three years of their school life and he had a hearing impairment that caused a speech impediment and was always the smallest kid in the class. After 3rd grade that often mean being bullied, or at least left out socially. He also had an extremely high IQ. At 28 years-old you would be hard press finding a kinder human being.
My mom was abused by a mentally ill traumatized mother. Because of this she truly was the best mom anyone could ask for. It took her a long time to come to terms with her mom but by the time she died she had finally come to terms with it. My siblings and I benefited from my mom’s tough childhood
Never, ever for the love of God, set out to make anyone else miserable. The only person you can really make miserable is yourself.
Wow, I can’t believe I just read this! I was talking to a friend the other day about my grandmother (Capricorn, 91, she passed away on MOnday) what a really difficult life she had but was the nicest person I knew. She helped everyone who asked and many times that turned to bite her. Our conclusion was that people who really had difficult lives will never do anything to other people to intentionally hurt them. But now I wonder if it’s only people with a capricorn signature in their chart…
I disagree. I see those who hurt others as having been hurt themselves. In your example of holocaust survivors the most agressive terrorists to help overthrow British rule in Palestine to create the Jewish state of Israel were those most savagely brutalised by the Nazis. The indigenous people of Palestine live in a stste of apartheid. The cycle of pain and punishment gets handed from one perpetrator to the next.
I agree. I don’t recall making any comments on this. Could be someone else.