wyrdling asks on Astrology, Evil and Vicious Women:
“i want to hear how you manage to disarm them so efficiently ;)”
I remove their stinger. Once you’ve done this it is GAME OVER. The skill is courtesy Mars Mercury, because you have to figure out how you’re going to do this.
For the record, I do this in consultations all the time. People in trouble call me and I brainstorm how to neutralize their problem. It’s a bit of a specialty actually.
How do you deal with vicious women?
related post – How Do You Spot A Vicious Woman?
I try not to do this now but when I was younger I had the ability to anihilate someone in a few carefully chosen words – well actually they would just fly out in a flash. I also had the look that put the fear of God in people and apparently was able to convey utter disdain.
I think that is mercury conjunct uranus, sun conjunct mars/pluto and probably cap moon and leo MC for abit of regal disdain!
This rarely happens now because I am conscious of conserving energy and just older and happier but if I really need to I just wipe away my virgo and libra, look at people directly and speak slowly and clearly. It seems to work 🙂
Bella and I have the same historical methods in common 🙂 Like her, I also don’t do that anymore.
But, I have a dilemma right now actually. I run a non-profit organization. There is a member who I find manipulative and I’m now trying to figure out her game. She dominates all conversations – with everyone – and believes her advice is gospel. She’s also very religious, which tends to put me off.
Anyway, lately she’s taken to trying to challenge me in public. She also has this weird subtle way of putting others down or something. I’ve honestly not seen anything like this..she pretends to be caring and supportive but there is just something not right. Every once in a while, moreso in the past 2 weeks, she lets these zingers fly and now I don’t know what to think.
How do you neutralize someone like that?! It’s upsetting for others who need help. I’d trying to maintain a stress free non-confrontational fully supportive environment and she is the only one causing upset from time to time.
I look them in the eye and smile. And if they get more vicious, I smile wider. I’m not sure if anyone can get away with that… or if it’s just a side effect of me having Moon in Cancer smack on the ascendant, and Mars in Cap exactly opposite it.
Or maybe they just aren’t used to that treatment.
avoiding them isn’t an option anymore. and i realize i’m woefully unprepared 🙁
will need to chew on this. thanks 🙂
Elsa, can you give examples? I would love to know how you do this. Nothing I try works, except to walk away. And there are times when you can’t do that.
“Elsa, can you give examples?”
Not really because each case is unique. But I am also talking about true evil / people with skills. You can’t stop this kind of person with eye contact, or a smile, you need something more like a truck.
I just figure it out as all but it’s like a being dealt a hand of cards. You’ve got to see what you’ve got and then play them better than what the other guy can do with his. This is a skill I have honed since I was a six years old. I am a puzzle cracker from way back.
I avoid them as much as I can and don’t say a word to them about it.
I have a vicious aunt and I got brought up to not say a darned thing to her because it would only give her more ammo.
For me the best way to deal with vicious people (women and men) is being fully aware of their viciousness and accepting that they are as evil as they are. Normally, once I X-ray them, they don’t want to see me anymore – including certain family members. It’s more efficient to get them to avoid me than the other way around. I also think this is true for all kind of evil, get the evil to avoid you, so you don’t need to figure out how to avoid the evil.
Conny – What do you mean by X-raying them? Can you tell us how to do it?
Ten things you can do…
1.) Tolerance and acceptance – So important! Some people just don’t have the soft skills it takes to interact with others, some times they are hung up over something that has nothing to do with you, there are too many scenarios to list! Tolerate and accept the things you can not control. Focus on the things you can control. Don’t focus on “controlling” the other persons behavior, e.g. getting them to be kinder or shut up.
2.) Approach the situation from a position of power – Never react, never accept victim status. You run the show. Choose your action based on what is important to not, rather than reacting to what is important to them.
3.) Opposition and Rebellion – If you want a kind peaceful environment, create one. If they disrupt it, restore it. They put you down, pick yourself up. If they are nasty, be nice. If they are stingy, share. If they lie, tell the truth. If they are cranky be happy. (This will really piss them off.)
This shows that they are limited and have no power over you, trust me they’ll get the message. Don’t let them keep you down or stop you from reaching your goals. Meet their opposition with some of your own. Neutralize the threat but don’t obsess over it.
4.) Boundaries – Set boundaries and maintain them. Limit your interactions.
5.) Get it in check – Basically put things in perspective. Is this really worth your attention? They are being catty, so what. Do what you came to do, and move on.
6.) Honest communication – You don’t like people talking to you like that. Then say so.
If they try to get you to analyze your self “Don’t you think you are being too sensitive?” refuse to follow suit. (I fall into this trap most often)
Your sensitivity isn’t the issue and don’t let them make it one. This is about how they are choosing to communicate with you, remind them of that should they try to get off topic in any way. This is about the issue you want to address, if they have issues they can take them up with you on another occasion because it’s important to deal with one thing at a time.
7.) Let it go – This is part of getting it in check. Resolve the issue and move on. Agree to disagree and move on. Accept it and move on. Don’t hold a grudge or harbor negative energy. Did I mention move on?
8.) Kill them with… Coolness – I say coolness because all too often “kindness” is mistaken for friendliness. Just be polite and considerate towards them. Don’t take them seriously. Laugh it off, don’t let it stick to you or get under your skin. Be cool…
9.) Deal with it right away – Live in the moment. It bothers you now, do something now. Trust your instincts, it’s o.k. to be wrong and learn something. Then your free to live in the next moment rather than being stuck in this one. If you missed the opportunity, then move on anyway. There’s always next time…
10.) Don’t preach to the choir – Don’t ignore the person and then go tell your friends or a sympathetic ear. Sure this gets you sympathy but it doesn’t resolve the issue. Sometimes it complicates things instead.
circle.dot.raindrops, what I mean with x-raying is looking through people or things to see their structure, their core. To see them as they are you don’t want anything from them. You don’t want them to be different or to change, you don’t want them to like you or to accept you, you don’t want them to do you any favor. Nothing. Evil is a lack, so their game depend on finding someone to play with. Their favorite victims are people who expect them to be different as they are.
Well, and after that you need to accept that auntie doesn’t invite you anymore and the vicious neighbor doesn’t greet you either 🙂
wow. pretty heavy stuff here. i guess i really don’t come into contact with ‘evil women’on a reg. basis- or at least i am not aware of it. but one thing i have learned as an adult- for me, is just to remember the golden rules.
Conny – *nods* It’ll take some time to absorb. But, this is powerful stuff for sure. Thank you.