What’s currently considered taboo in astrology in this era? I first posed this question, thirteen years ago. It’s always interesting and we could use an update. My original post follows.
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People say I’m provocative but it is almost never my motive. There are topics I feel are taboo in astrology. These are subjects that really PISS PEOPLE OFF.
I have Mars conjunct Mercury which likes a mental challenge. I wonder if people can help me put a list together.
My vote for the #1 thing that you can’t bring up in astrology circles would be the shadow side of Aquarians. The other signs are fair game but if you get to talking about the gross and disgusting side of Aquarius, you’re going to have a hideous fight on your hands.
Your turn!
What makes your list of the top 10 taboo topics in astrology, today?
“People also never really talk about the fact that Scorpio rules poop as well as sex and death.”
Ha ha ha. Good call, Librat.
I have aqua rising, and I find aqua traits in others quite repulsive. I get along with them as long as I keep them at a distance. Never before has my vulnerability been used as a weapon against me like it has by aquarians.
The scorpios I know I can cut some slack cuz they seem to make no bones about having a dark side (aka less delusional). They don’t put on a show, like most aquarians seem to. They keep it real. You know what to expect. Hell, they are even self-aware enough to understand what their nature is and to do something about it.
Oh I so agree about fighting with Aquarians. I have totally adored two people with Aqua sun (both with strong Cap as well) and both are divine people. Until you disagree or have a fight. Then, both have this amazing ability to say ‘I don’t care about you anyway’ and sound like they mean it.
And my little Virgoan / Piscean heart breaks every time. Largely because I can’t do ‘I don’t care about you’.
Other taboo topics:
Perhaps astrology and religion, as in people who know astrology versus people who believe strongly in a religion and believe that astrology is a bunch of bull. In every day life, I feel as if astrology is the taboo subject, and I hardly ever discuss it.
Another topic would be maybe religious fanatics. What in a chart indicates the possibility of a religious fanatic?
And then politics. For example, we could take Obama’s chart, and just dissect it. I’m sure that’ll bring up a lot of heat.
That reminds me of once when Elsa mentioned Paris Hilton, and things got hot on here. “I like her” vs. “I hate her”. Would that be riling things up or is it actually taboo? Hmm.. maybe I’m confusing the word “taboo” now.. I dunno, just throwing out ideas.
I just picked religion and politics originally because those are the two things people say are taboo when you’re on a first date, so I figure it might work here.
One of the main problems with too much of modern astrology is that the view of placements of planets in their detriment or falls is looked as a personal judgment against people, thus Aquarius is now looked as superior to all other signs. At least, that’s my current hypothesis.
How about fire sign women being compelled to steal your mens?
(I am not being entirely serious BUT the only two women I have known personally who did this very deliberately, not to me but to other women, were both double-fire, Sag Sun/Leo Moon – my mother and a friend from a writing class. Beyond that, I’ve only heard tell!)
Thanks, Elsa. (KKK seeing themselves as humanitarian.) Ronald Reagan was an Aquarian, too, so I think I get the idea. It does creep me out though, to think that I probably have all sorts of shadow stuff about which I am completely unconscious!
Personally, I kinda like taboo topics. Even though they can be challenging, I feel impelled to face them. But… potential break-ups and health problems are the topics I really don’t want to hear about in an astrological reading, unless they are delivered in some neutral way or with a silver lining!
Amanda, I’m inclined to think this is coincidental, but the only two women who have successfully “stolen my man” were sag! And another one tried to! Very interesting. I always assumed that they just had something I didn’t.
I think it’s funny when a woman of any sign, tries to steal your man and falls right on her face. Now THAT is a good time. 😉
Kate-o – whoa! I think it’s a competitive thing; I think fire sign women in general are very competitive (most often in a good way, no question) and Sag women in particular are competitive and have that free spirit thing goin’ on, which some men do like. (My mother nabbed someone else’s Aries man – oh jeez, my poor Pisces dad!) I’ve seen them work it, esp. my writing class friend, and they definitely play hardball!
Those sag women don’t work in the shadows… They have been pretty casual about it. I always interpreted that free-spiritedness as chronic instability. And you know what. I can recall another sag who stole my man (who wasn’t mine YET, but I’d been working on it for years). I’ve got the Aries moon. I certainly think about stealing people’s mans. But that Libra sun has instilled some sort of debilitating politeness in me. Too bad about all that!
kate-o 🙂 Debilitating politeness is just another way of saying that you have a good dose of classiness!
Thanks for bringing up a great topic, Elsa. Aquarians have given me major fits over the years. I NEVER saw them as humanitarians, for that reason. They are detached for sure, and co-dependence would be totally impossible for them. My ex is a Sag with Mars in Aqua and he could stiff arm you emotionally and physically like nobody’s business. Whew… this has been a revelation to me. Thanks for the heads up on that book you mentioned, Glenn… I must have it!
@ Norah, Mars Aquarius “stiff arm you emotionally and physically like no one’s business”
I’m also a Mars Aquarius, I can relate!
Shadow side of Aquarius? Noo..Don’t expose us! Seriously, I have the Leo Rising to balance it out, yes? That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
I’d lurve to have the full gen on Aquarius: almost every man I’ve had a serious relationship with has either been Aquarius Sun (twice inc husband) or has had Aqua Asc or Moon (three of them, and those all Leo Suns).
“… Never before has my vulnerability been used as a weapon against me like it has by aquarians”
Yup they sure are good at that… And the only two I’ve known well to have that ‘universal love / community’ thing, have been pretty tough nuts personally – the others didn’t have it at all; maybe their Leo was just too strong!
what i understand of it is…
aquarius like to be special and different and unique… and cliquish and better than other people.
sometimes they can take that “better than” idea real far…
scorpios can be the most devoted people on the planet.
wouldn’t mind hearing more about the good side of aries… mostly it seems way easier to see the bad than whatever good comes out of it… seeing as how well developed aries is at seeing their effects on others (/sarcasm)
Aquarians may be a$$holes on the dark side but they’ve (we’ve) been getting railed on all day and there’s yet to be a nasty word in return. C’mon, that has to count for something, LOL! Oh, I’d love to go to town on personal experience with a few signs myself – but I’ve tried to honor the spirit of the original post by sticking to just “astro taboos.” If that’s considered being too high-minded by some, please accept my apologies 😉 I’ll try to go on living wit’ mah bad ol’ self!
AmandaPM: ROFLOL !!!!
Aquarians may be a$$holes on the dark side but they’ve (we’ve) been getting railed on all day and there’s yet to be a nasty word in return. C’mon, that has to count for something,
Personally I suspect a lot of confirmation biases from these rants, it’s not like it’s possible to have the luxury to see the chart of everyone they have a conflict with throughout their lifetime, and some people have a habit of often becoming friends or lovers to those that are contrarians and/or all too conflict friendly-like myself, for one (some types of people out there just love the crazy). I’m less worried if someone has a planet there, though if a lot of their planets are in fixed signs, stubbornness is usually inevitable. I’d also look at their lunar, mars, and mercury placements and aspects.
Forgot to add, the state of the ruling planet is usually the most important when it comes to a person’s temperament. Blaming it on the Sun or Moon sign is only looking at the parts, not the whole.
Crazy Virgo and ATrickyBusiness – now we’re talkin’! Thanks for the refreshing laughter and perspective; man, I’ve spent most of the day feeling like, “Dang, I really must be a sh*tty person!” Now I can go to sleep feeling like I’m not all THAT bad overall. 🙂
Now I can go to sleep feeling like I’m not all THAT bad overall.
I hope so! If you’re bad, I must be awful due to some of my non-Sun inner planet placements!
😀 I’m sure you’re not bad Amandapm.
I’m just glad it’s not Virgos getting ragged on this time 😉
Hi! long time lurker but the comment on talking about the shadow side of Aquas really intrigues me. I’m an Aqua sun but my Scorpio moon would be very interested in the nitty gritty of the shadow side of what fuels me. I feel like no one want to be told about the terrible things that could be beneath their surface even if awareness benefits them.
Elsa I hope you keep doing these Colosseums when I’m not a university student with no job and can afford joining in on one. I wouldn’t think of hesitating.
ok another thought about Aquarius, my father in the calender is born only 5 days apart from me but looking at his chart he has a very strong Aqqua stellium while I have one in Capricorn while I thought I fairly in touch with my Aqua sun I never can understand my Dad and we’ve had some clashes in the past. Long story shortened when discussing the dark side of Aquarius I think of my Dad and our relationship.
never ask astrologers to justify their belief in astrology.
Aquarius Moon = impossible
I know, I have one!
@Elsa, I totally agree! It is next to impossible to feel comfortable discussing the negative side of this humanitarian, sociable, erratic sign! And that’s not right!
Other taboo topics
homosexuality
gold-digging (the tendency to)
petty or selfish behavior – like SMALL minded behavior
popularity and unpopularity
yeap.
Sonia: Too true! I AquaMoon, too. No one is allowed to have bad moods except ME!
LisLioness i blame my aquarius, primarily, for my explosive temper. i’ve learned, mostly, to keep it in check, but often that requires breaking off social contact entirely and finding a quiet room to breathe in for a little while. before i open my mouth. because. wow.
astrology also isn’t too fond of exploring the shadow of pisces, either. though i don’t have that problem, here, so much 🙂
and the earth signs tends to be perpetually underrated. i think astrologers think they’re boring. or have problems with thinking there’s anything special about physical reality. kind of like how many religions desacralize the physical. it becomes dangerous and “evil.” or, to many people, “mundane.”
and i just don’t hear much about cancer. considering how many people i know have it strongly placed and how little i hear about it i find that odd. i think maybe it gets underrated, too. “moody” and “nurturing” when there’s a lot more depth and complex dynamics to it.
Eris: I agree with you that Cancer and the earth signs get steam-rollered a lot. We’re in such a “yang” society; it can be hard to play up the powerful nature of the “yin” in a chart (except Scorp.). I think people really want to be assured that they have some personal power, and that is so closely associated with the pro-active fire powerhouses that go out there and get it. Tell people that Cancer is a cardinal sign, and it’s not much of a consolation.
Yeah.. Shadow Aquarius…
My Ex (Who still lives with me, because he’s not in love with me, I deserve better/blahblah, but wont let me go because I’m one of his favorite people in the world, considers me family because I practically gave him more than his mom could (No affence to her cancers, they just had a rough life, and a bad relationship)
Has a stellium in Aquarius… Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter…. ::cough:: which is sextiling his planets in Sagg(Mars/Saturn/Uranus) And all squaring Pluto in scorpio.
Anywho, sometimes he’ll act like I’m his dear sister, sometimes he’ll act like we’re lovers (Which is cute, cause eventually he gets disappointed, This Scorpio Cut you off, forever. LOL!) Sometimes he’ll act like we’re best friends, and then he’ll act like I’m just his roommate who lives theres. Its’ so weird.
I hear you guys about the Moon, Yeah, only he’s allowed to be upset… that only works for so long, I’ve figure out ways around that, but the thing This scorpio learned is the more I’ve got him figure out (Since he doesn’t wanna stop playing games.) He’ll evolve, and then I’ve got to get 2 steps ahead of him again, since thats the only way I can’t make sure I’m allowed to be myself it to be smarter than him. It’s sooooo retarded, these games. But I’ve tried to stop playing games only to have him try to take total control over me, and I’ve tried to amputate him 3 times, and well, I keep him as a friend because that shocks the hell out of him and he jumps through hoops and beggs to be at least friends.
Whenever he gets out of my house he’ll be a good friend, it’s living with Aquarians Day to day and dealing with their games thats annoying. I like stabilty and clearly defind boundaries, you don’t get that with Aquas cause they try to get their needs met all the while lying about it to themselves. So weird.
Weird. I can’t relate to what most of you are saying about your experiences with Aquarius people. I like Aquarius women and Aqua men have tended to support/adore/strenghten me. My father was a late Aqua, an old boyfriend was Aqua with moon in Libra as was a favourite former colleague and my husband is an Aqua with moon in Sage and mars in Cancer (he is the very opposite of detached!). He’s wonderful (I know I’m biased) but my only complaint about Aqua men is that they have a tendency to over-protect me–in work and in personal life. They can also be a bit weak when it comes to negotiating boundaries. One minute they’re talking about cutting a toxic person out of their lives, the next minute they’re having a kind conversation with this same idiot. I chalk this up to kindness but I suppose it could be considered a charactger weakness. I’m not a Scorpio but my personal planets all square Pluto so I tend to amputate. No kindess in this Gemini. LOL.
Yeah… the needs while wanting to not need anybody sucks for us Aquas. We are required to be somewhat independent, not co-, and it is hard for us, too. We were probably all very needy and co-dependent in our last lives and now are supposed to be learning how to take better care of ourselves and the universal family, in Aqua school this time. I think most of us are just trying to learn this stuff because really we are not very good at it yet and need to “get it,” just like Scorps are trying to learn about how to use power appropriately, and so on.
We also gotta learn about “detachment” which believe me does not come easily for a fixed sign person who can get stubbornly attached (in spite of Uranus sudden change stuff — yes we even contradict ourselves!), but seems to be one of the skills necessary to learn. If we don’t learn detachment, we will have one of those Aqua rebellious rages because we have gotten too attached to our expectations or desires. Aquas try to keep cool, but it can get real hot under there.
Great topic, Elsa!! Love all the observations. I find that spiritually minded astrologers pressure us all to talk about money as it relates to the 2nd house. It’s more politically correct to only refer to it as “values.”
That’s such a disservice to our clients, especially in the middle of one of the biggest financial crises in 80 years or so. If we can’t look at money, that’s our problem, but if we’re being PAID to throw light on people’s money worries, it’s a rip off to only warble about values. Donna Cunningham
I was just thinking about sexy Scorp too and agree that isn’t always so, though they want you to believe it. They are much more into money and power of all kinds, so if you find those two things sexy then maybe they are. I’m a previously maligned Aquarius, so what do I know. I have been an astrologist for 40 years but can always learn something new.
Aquarius Sun; Aries Moon; Scorpio Rising? I would love to hear about my shadow side. I’m a real newbie. The shadow side might explain alot.
I told a very full of himself Scorp that only a Capricorn could crush him; that did go over too well.
I think, Leslie, that we Aquarius people tend to care much more about what others think of us than
we ever let on; so we are often left lonely. I think Aqua has a terrible rap for being unfeeling; not true. NOT TRUE. Maybe fearful of caring too much????
I feel that Pisces always gets called out for being
addictive personalities; in my experiences I would
mostly agree with this and it saddens me terribly; such amazing spirits who get caught in material webs.
“Yeah… the needs while wanting to not need anybody sucks for us Aquas”
It sucks for those of us unfortunate enough to fall for you, too! hahaha
BelovedMoon, after 45 years of intimate relationships with men who have Aquarius, whether Sun Moon or Asc, imo if you are waiting for yours to evolve, you have have a long wait coming!
For me the big taboo, on this site at least, is saying that Scorpios are no more intense, sexy and special than any other sign! I’ve known a lot, and I just don’t see it. A few are – but then so are a few Tauruses, Capricorns etc etc, It;s the totality of the chart which makes for a special person imo
I guess the big taboo for an astrologer is clearly seeing something quite negative in a chart, eg the holder being seriously manipulative and selfish. How much to say?
Connie, yes I care very much what people think of me. I’ve done alot of things just because I thought someone would like me better. Thanks for responding.
Let’s talk about the real meaning of the houses-
6th house-it’s not about work and health, but servitude and illness.
8th house-it’s not about sex, it’s about death and other people’s money.
12th house-it’s self undoing, and other problems. Having planets in there will not make you psychic.
Having 4 planets (including sun) & asc in 12th house I’d rather not think of it as the house of undoing 🙂 🙂 That sounds too scary for me
@josefina
Bad aspects or good, it doesn’t matter. 🙂 Some people like more struggle in their relationshops (hard aspects), some like more flow (easy aspects). But if none of “the big three” — sun, moon, asc — are aspecting each other somehow, then it’s highly unlikely that anything’s going to get off the ground relationship-wise.
Yeah, if his/her Venus is on your sun, you might get smitten (or vice-versa). Mars to a personal planet might make you hot under the collar, and so on through the planets. But if the foundation’s not there … ? *plane falling hand motion* Not good odds, my friend.
Ya feelin’ me? *grins*
..this perhaps isn’t so much a taboo topic, but i think it’s definitely a taboo (and impossible) statement.
NEVER, NEVER, EVER.. tell a scorpio “I’VE GOT YOU FIGURED OUT..” i swear you’ll get bitch slapped so hard you won’t even know what sign you are anymore.
first off.. no one can ever truly “figure out” a scorpio, including said scorpio.. second, we like it that way.. we want it that way, and having some snooty sadge come and tell me i’m an open book is a sure FIRE was to make this WATER boil.
rantares113 – Here’s a post about figuring me out
How about the dark side of Pisces?
There are a lot of good Pisces, but I’ve known some pretty deceptive ones!
The crazy freaky sex drive of the virgo folk 🙂 *Says the mars in aquarius*
Me? dark side?
As a newbie young astrology student all I can say is this, I think the dark side of it all should be discussed and easily available. And the only reason I say this is because when people are first drawn to astro it is because something is not working and they are seeking answers and when people are in trouble or need help they don’t to hear how good everything is. I mean what good does it do for oh yeah everything is going to be fine when you are dealing with the negative/dark side of an energy. I just think people can better deal and cope when they know what they are up against, you don’t have to like, but at least you know what you are dealing with. From my friends who are not deep into astro they usually respond with, “Yeah my horoscope said this, this, and this, and I don’t believe it. The total opposite just happened.” well yeah the total opposite just happened cause that is the dark side of the same energy, but none the less they stop believing and chalk up astro to just a bunch of hub bub.