What’s currently considered taboo in astrology in this era? I first posed this question, thirteen years ago. It’s always interesting and we could use an update. My original post follows.
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People say I’m provocative but it is almost never my motive. There are topics I feel are taboo in astrology. These are subjects that really PISS PEOPLE OFF.
I have Mars conjunct Mercury which likes a mental challenge. I wonder if people can help me put a list together.
My vote for the #1 thing that you can’t bring up in astrology circles would be the shadow side of Aquarians. The other signs are fair game but if you get to talking about the gross and disgusting side of Aquarius, you’re going to have a hideous fight on your hands.
Your turn!
What makes your list of the top 10 taboo topics in astrology, today?
Debbie Kempton Smith put it best in her book – Aquarians don’t have blood running through their veins..its IBM copy fluid! Lol. Priceless.
I should know – my two best friends growing up were born in the ‘great aquarius conjunction’ in Feb of 1962. They each have 6 planets in Aquarius!!! I tend to see it in Geminis just as much.
Taboo- let’s see
Scorpio vindictiveness
Shadow side of Saturn in Scorpio – twisted!
OMG! The aquarians. What about venus in aquarius?
They just don’t give a crap pretty much. And I attract them becuase I am not normal, very quirky, but they are like poison to me. Bad Juju.
feel they are the truly detached and unfeeling ones, but they are definitely deceptive in so many ways, I think they fool themselves most of all. Tricky.
Was replying to post about Pisces above.
Met her years ago when her book came out. Loved her and her lecture, so funny and true. The book is one of my faves.
@Glenn I looked up darkside astrology and found this:
When Scorpios shed their Ms. Manners persona out pops a sex-mad control freak.
Capricorns are really bean-counting misanthropes.
Aries are head banging psychos.
Now I am Capricorn and when not at work I am awful with money. But yep I have truly misanthropic moments. Having an aries father and a scorp hubby-yep to the other two.
I would love to see what Libras dark side is. 20 bucks says its mine.(ha)
I need to say LEO lots of leo and their love to be the centre of the world , its annoying their attempts for compliments sorry but at time pathetic kinda give me a break and get over yourself or is it my virgo talking !!
@ Daisy + comment #107
you are dead on the money!!!
so, cruel to try to force a smile onto someone’s attempt to understand and thus overcome their pain
Holy CRAP Elsa! Over 100 comments on this blog. You’ve opened the proverbial can of worms haven’t you? 😉
I have to say that all of the Aquarians I’ve come into contact with so far (one being an older sibling) definitely reinforces the dark side of their personality. The lying thing, man o man its bad! And yes this would definitely be a taboo topic I think. But then none of us like to hear about our dark side, do we?
Any conversation about one sign or another’s dark side or negative traits seems taboo. We all have them but no one seems to want to talk about it.
I think others have touched on this one, but the Virgo kinky sex thing is also a ‘no-no’. Virgo is the sign of the virgin, right? So how could that manifest as kink? Indeed….. 🙂
George, the people with pics here are registered on the boards. 🙂
Aquarians have so many annoying aspects! LOL! One thing I’ve noticed is they LOVE you and then HATE you. And it’s on a dime. And they do that with other things aside from people, too. A food item? LOVE IT. Two bites later? UGH HATE IT. Fickle, fickle. A song? OMG THIS SONG ROCKS! Another play of the chorus comes on, “Turn it off? I’m tired of it.”
It’s so reassuring to be reading all the negative characteristics of my sun sign, and my Mercury, i.e., AQUARIUS. I just thought I was totally bonkers. I must say I have a Sun that aspects not one other planet; does that make it all worse for me??
George,
It’s my UNASPected Sun in Aquarius with a wide conjunction to Mercury. Is that good to you??
My only Aquarius is the ascendant in 5deg21. Wide square with Pluto 3deg54 and even wider trine Uranus 5deg. I don’t think I am TOO horrible. I don’t try to hide the weirdness and am not defensive about it and people seem to embrace or respect that mostly. I attract a lot of freaks and random people like to unload their probs on me for some reason, but who knows if that has to do with aqua.
Also, it is my opinion that the shadow sides of each of the signs are all potentially terrifying. If I had to choose, I’d say the water signs are the most capable of putting the fear of god in a wo/man. An aquarian might mess with someone’s mind or give the cold shoulder, but cancer might well stab you.
No offense meant. Love crabs to death!
Don’t know why Marc Edmund Jones is not still widely referred to. His book-Astrology, How and why it works- mostly incomprehensible to the average intellect, has the most realistic description of the signs, no sugar coating. He explains the signs, also the nature of fire, water etc and does describe water signs as being the best “terrorists”. Have found his observations so accurate.
Yea my avatar is Aquarius. It’s WAY cooler to be Aquarius in astrology than to be Taurus…. Aqua is (supposedly) more evolved than earthy and juvenile Taurus! haha
I think one aspect of Aqua I don’t see mentioned much is their stubborness.
Taurus rule the world. They have the highest positions everywhere. Always get the job, keep the job forever, steamroll anyone who they even sniff may be threat to them. Money, money, money.
Daisy-
Have observed a lot of Virgo men over the years with very strange sexual peccadilloes, not limited to s&m stuff, pedophilia. Enough to make me wary.
Again, people like to unload their problems on me… May be too good of a listener.
My step father is aquarius and he seem to like to contradict himself a lot. One day, we can be talking about any subject, potilics, religion, sex, whatever, and he epresses his opinion on that. He can be really convincing so I come to agree with him. Three weeks later, the same subject surfaces on a conversation, maybe with other people, I express my opinion, which is the same he said thrre weeks ago, and now he takes the oppsite side, and not only that but he treats me like if I’m stupid or naive or just very wrong for saying something like that. And I’m like: ”don’t you remember you said the same thing I’m saying now just three weeks ago, and it was actually you who convinced because you presented a really strong case”
I’m an Aquarius and you bet I know I have a dark side. The only thing is that it ususlly doesn’t show up unless I’ved helped someone and they really didn’t need it. Then I can go from Humanitarium to your worst nitemare, but then again we only see ourselves as we see something in someone else that we may not like. I for one would love to know an Aquarius’ darkside so I can watch myself and fix it before I hurt someone or myself from lack of information!
Thanks Elsa
Thanks Elsa, I love your site. Only place I’ve seen so far to show your true self, be accepted, and be able to speak your mind! Truely priceless!!:)
Yep, that’s us! 🙂
My personal opinion, folks would be better served to stop being afraid of the dark, turn the friggin light on, see whats been hiding in there and sort it or turf it out 🙂 nothin to be afraid of, its only you or at least your own negative potential, note the word potential there.
See theres me, I like to believe I am a nuturing emotional person (cancer sun), who tries to be fair to everyone so everyone wins (libra asc/moon), the fact is alot of people find me a wishywashy pain in the ass (excuse the crab pun lol)that usually brings out my scopio ist house and my 12th house moon and hey ho this is me cursing you from my hiding place hehehehehehe(meant to sound like a stereotypical witches cackle)then once ive calmed down I come back and talk to you like any self righteous bitch who has saturn in late capricorn. Yep thats my dark side, I know its there and well, i think i have just about turned it into the “everyone hates Lily comedy show” and THAT is how i love to work with it. Turn it into the overdramatic melodrama that my stellium in leo loves and have a realllllllly good laugh at myself before as a last resort my pluto in virgo tries to fire the hell fire and brimstone from my 11th house.
See there, now is that the bluelily you thought you knew? well she’s my evil twin and once i knew she was there, I knew exactly what to do with her.
Love this topic Elsa!!! absolutely!
I have a question about the dark side of Aquarius. My friend’s toddler, who is a Scorp Sun/Aquarius Moon, is a self-centered, willful, sensitive, intense child. His daycare providers think he is exhibiting early signs of autism, I thought it was just his detached Aquarius moon. Is there an astrology to autism or maybe an Aquarius placement can be socially and emotionally crippling? I’m still on the fence about what the ladies at daycare say, just curious.
@hardcorewatersign this would be a good question to post on the boards where it’s easier to find.
…figures… i’m busy writing a paper about the shadow of aquarius… for political science, but still… 😛
My friend has a son with Aqua stellium and his behavior exhibits signs of ADHD, he never stays put, doesn’t keep focus for a long time.
@bluelily… aren’t you being a bit tough on yourself? You’ve made comments that have made me smile all day! True!
You have your dark side well under control 😉
@hardcorewatersign… I know a Scorp Sun with an Aqua Moon who thaught he was some kind of psycho because he was SO detached & felt BAD about his lack of empathy.
Day Care Ladies may speculate… are they Astrology savvy? Hmmm
I was engaged to an Aqua Sun, Scorp Rising, Cap Moon and for the all the great qualities he has…the dark stuff was scary. I watched him throw people under the bus on a daily basis. He would find someone to “help” and then once they got on their feet..he would find ways to sabotage them. But, it was never obvious to them what he was he doing. This did not set well with me, but my Venus in Pisces assumed that he was doing unconsciously. I casually mentioned his pattern to him and he smiled and kissed me on the cheek and said something like. ” See, you get me. That’s why I am with you.” I met him in 1994, but we did not start dating until 2009. I saw the way he worked over his Aquarius ex wife. And it made me nervous for my emotional safety. Especially, since I was onto to his game and the motivations behind it. Even though we are no longer together..I still look over my shoulder.
That is scary!
My Sun is in Scorpio in the 9th my rising is Aqua and my moon is in Taurus in the 3rd. I personally believe that all the signs have both a positive and a negative aspect. Some signs are kind of like the little girl with the curl when they are good they are very very good but when they are bad they are fucking horrid. Some folks only exhibit the negative aspects and that very well may be because of their planet placements but what gets me is they don’t even try all that hard to adopt some of the more positive aspects.
If using astrology to predict a person’s death isn’t taboo it sure ought to be! I’ll never forget an initial consult with an astrologer who immediately started out with telling me that she saw me dying from a long, drawn-out illness rather than something quick like a car accident! Not sure I heard the rest of session – couldn’t process much right after that one.
I have to go with predicting time or manner of death as the most taboo. When I studied Astrology way back when, I was told it was unethical to do so.
I agree and in every case I know of personally, the astrologer has been wrong. And caused grievous harm, in each and every case. 🙁
Without a doubt!
I agree with Alessandra Derniat, JoFrance and Elsa that predicting death has got to be the most Taboo and it does cause grievous harm. I believe you can tell someone that they need to be aware that heath issues could come with the next transit or there is an aspect that could bring on serious health issues but to tell someone they are going to die is unethical. I read cards and if I don’t know the person I’m reading I always tell then please don’t ask the cards when you are going to die it for one gives a bizarre fucked off reading that make absolutely no sense whatsoever. My sister reads cards and palms she is very accurate especially with the palm but she will tell you to be aware that there may be some very serious health issues in X number of months or years or at around a certain age but she will not tell you if she see death as it is unethical.
All right being provocative us putting the cart before the horse. Bringing up the taboo does provoke. So it’s a semantic issue…:)
Didn’t Aquarius have something to do with eatting his children? And didn’t Saturn cast rate him in mythology? All air signs have a caustic side. I’ve heard some astrologers say the most tyrannical sign is not Scorpio but Gemini. Libra demands harmony…she was a goddess of war.
Why is it considered taboo to bring up the shadow side of Aquarius? I have an Aquarius ascendant and have no problem acknowledging my many airy flaws. Stubborn, pathologically commitmentphobic, at times cold as ice. Those are just a few.
Great thread. My dad has 5 planets and his NN in Aquarius in the 1st house — he aggressively detaches. It’s super sad to watch, he’s a textbook narcissist, that generation of white men who are really not in touch with their feelings.
Amazingly, his P is in the 7th, and he’s on his third wife. They’re actually pretty happy (she even has P in the 1st, which he caters to). But God forbid anyone else should come into the mix or demand his attention — He can only handle having one main person in his life, he gets his needs met this way, everyone else be damned.
Aquarius, the socialist. Hehe!
Most of my boyfriends throughout my life, and now my husband are aquarians. I am sun sag cancer moon libra rising and Pluto and Uranus in 11th house, which might be relevant. I love aquarian males big time. The passion I feel from them is almost palpable! It might be a coincidence but my aquarian partners have all been passionate and possessive with me. Yes they can be detached, arrogant and manipulative but I worked out through bloody mindedness the only way to deal with Aquarius is to out-aquarian them! They love it. When they get weird I disappear and follow new hobbies, check out old friends and generally make myself unavailable- drives ’em WILD. They are very very sexy, too! In fact I have always felt an almost metaphysical affinity with them – is that weird?
We two people want to hear they belong together and really they are a tough fit. Otherwise why would they be asking in the first place?
ha! I love this. I’m an Aquarian in a relationship with an Aquarian (maybe? I don’t know anymore, I’d like it to end but he seems to be ignoring that fact). Anyway, I’m pretty sure I’d like to know more about it because hopefully I’m not displaying it and secondly, I think my boyfriend is. There is always a reason why he is right even though he knows it’s morally wrong. But it’s hard to find fault with his arguments at the time.
Aquarius are arrogants, snob and proud. They are too mental, its missing the heart thing. My mom is aquarius moon in aries. Super cold..
you don’t get it. “humanitarian” doesn’t mean to feed you your little soup with your favorite spoon and kiss you good night. it means to cut your little soup half and give the hungry one your other half, which will, of course, make your watery little ass cry.
Yeah we are assholes, but it takes an asshole to be a humanitarian.
and another thing… we don’t “run away from our feelings cause we are scared, hurt, shy..” or whatever the pathetic reason you like to tell youself in order to comfort yourself that you understood us (you never will). cause we operate on a positivity-level. we’re about improvement. imagine a water bearer giving the water to the thirsty. while you sit there and begin your little attachment, there are other thirsty people that are not given water cause of you. that’s why we actually don’t have a shadow. you get what you get. we are here, and then we are gone. there is no reason. we just felt like it. deal with it.
(what i wrote here are all ideas; this is the presentation of the function of Uranus, of course. i hope you understand the metaphors. all people are different and have different emotional responses. i actually can’t stand detached aqua moons. but i let them be. i just can’t stand misinterpretations and “aquarius should be more attached…” bullshit. we shouldn’t, that’s why we are aquas. go find yourself a cancer.)
I am grateful to have an Aquarius ascendant because my ability to detach helped me survive more “sensitive, nurturing” attached types whose only true attachment was their need to control other people so they could feel better about themselves.
Mars in Aqua sexuality can be off-putting to some. We’re not too into intimacy and lovey-dovey sex (see also Hugh Hefner). I prefer online and phone sex over being close to someone. I also have Sun conjunct Uranus.
My ex had his Mars (conjunct Mercury) in Aquarius (Sun too) and he would dig up the most disgusting porn and we would laugh at it. When he posted his findings on this online chat group (where we met of course) most people really did NOT laugh at it. They thought we were well disgusting and deserving of each other. Which we were! We also shared similar views and would passionately hate people who we thought were oppressive towards already unfortunate groups of people. We hated people who looked down on the homeless, poor, ill, people who had an unfortunate upbringing and therefore couldn’t succeed in life as well as some. We would wish for these dicks to have terrible hardships in their lives so they’d understand. So in a sense we were humanitarian as in we rooted for the underdog but at the same time hoped for bad things to happen to the privileged. We liked humanity as a concept but didn’t like most people.
There’s also a tendency to feel intellectually superior and to disregard overly sensitive and emotional people. Also being a humanitarian, to me, doesn’t mean nurturing people. It needs to be rational rather than emotional.
I can’t get my shit together to write a one coherent post can I…
Anyway I don’t understand why this is a taboo subject. At least me and my ex were well aware of our “shadow side” as it were, and we were in fact proud of it.
I’m an Aquarius Sun (mars and mercury all conjunct)and I can totally see the shadow side Aquarius would show. This is going to sound biased not, but I’ve mostly seen it in Aqua man – they are always right and will go to extremes to make sure you understand they are right. They will also tend to explain it all rationally both for themselves (internally) and externally to you. Also, they will not hear anything you say that doesn’t fit with their world view – it’s like they can’t fathom something different so it’s simply rejected and never enters their mind.
That said, I probably do the same things but am not aware of it. 🙂 One thing I do know, I like to play the devil’s advocate and people don’t appreciate that much.
Ha ha this is my lovely acqua husband! He tries to do this and I laugh at him and ridicule him and parody him and remind him what he said 5 years ago that contradicts what he’s saying. In fact, I ‘out logic’ him every time – it’s hilarious. (I’ve got sag sun in third house). He gets confused and mixed up and then shuts up. Poor guy. I guess I’ll be replaced by a sympathetic 18 year old at some point…
Wow. Most of my in-laws are Aquarians and these comments hit the nail on the head, especially lately, now that the micro-thin veneer has fallen off their lives. In hindsight I can see it but at the time I just didn’t consider any shadow side to that sign. Would you think it’s taboo or just a feature that gets missed? I would agree that death predictions are the ultimate taboo yet I can’t help wondering what placements might point that way. I’ve always felt like I would die in an accident, altercation or event. Maybe that’s just Mars/Leo seeking drama.
I don’t have a single Aquarian friend, that I know of…..I have many Virgo friends and relatives, whom I generally respect and love. However, I have noticed something about Virgos that astrologers don’t talk about, which is that Virgos are quite secretive and paranoid about their privacy. One of our Virgo sons is very outgoing in general, but he tightly controls what he lets us know about his activities, and has done so since he was a tot…
virgo is very secretive, they’re similar to pisces. lol 😀 it’s that axis.
Agree with your Virgo observation! I have Virgo friends and yes they (in general) are very selective about what they choose to share and definitely control what they share. I respect this and understand why most of the time and yes controlling in other areas. Very disciplined and discriminating.
Read Marc Edmund Jones- he writes Vigo can be very vindictive if crowded too hard. Have noticed this trait in Virgo. I have Pluto in Virgo, and although not a vindictive person, can become cold, mercilessly and cruel to anyone who invades my privacy or smugly presumes they are somehow entitled to be in my life. Yes, think the Pluto inconjunct Aqua sun.
https://elsaelsa.com/astrology/all-virgos-have-a-secret-life-appealing-or-not/
https://elsaelsa.com/astrology/speaking-of-virgos-secret-life-michael-jackson-secret-library-of-100-songs-could-be-released/
In reference to Aquarius: Okay, at the risk of being run out of town on a rail, according to Astrotheme, as I think they use Jeane Dixon as a reference, isn’t the Anti Christ a triple Aquarius? It would make sense, complete detachment.
https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Anti-Christ
And according to Astrotheme, they list Jesus’ birthday with Pisces Moon and Aquarius Moon. I always found this intriguing. It seems that when one is entrusted with great responsibilities, a certain amount of detachment may be required but COMPLETE detachment is scary. Does anyone else understand what I am trying to convey?
Aquarius gross and ugly side would be tyranny, abuse, a fixed sign algol thing too; i’ve witnessed it myself.