Selkie writes, regarding the stereotypes of the various signs…
“…lots of Scorpios are harsh people who actually greatly enjoy judging others (even people they’ve never even met or talked to); insist on playing seemingly inexplicable games with people for years on end; take pleasure in seeing “certain” (or “certain sorts of”) people punished, and in freezing out the “unworthy,” and who are stubborn to the point of harming both themselves and others – even the people closest to them.”
The comment is out of context so check yourself if it offends you. I wanted to address the phenomena of Scorpio freezing people out. It definitely happens and it’s never been addressed on this blog.
I have been frozen out by a Scorpio. Though I’m not a Scorpio, I have enough in the eighth house I can do a pretty mean impression of one. I’ve learned to freeze people out myself. The act is an act but I would argue the motivation.
Though games are played and Scorpio withholds to manipulate and so forth, most times when Scorpio freezes someone out… amputates I would say, it is almost always an act of self-preservation. I learned this the hard way, which is probably the best way. Here’s the story:
Some years ago I had a Scorpio pal; we were friends, not lovers. He was educated and generous with me. He shared his knowledge, told me jokes, listened to me, kept me cheered and just in general supported me in many ways. He was an outstanding friend and while I always appreciated him, I taxed him greatly. I was immature at the time. I was high maintenance and I just didn’t seem to be able to understand his agony although it was expressed.
He was Jupiter rising like I am and people think we’re buoyant to the core when this is simply not the case. But anyway, he told me and told me and told me that he was suffering, but I just kept coming. I cringe when I write this but whatever. This is what I did and eventually he pulled the plug.
And he didn’t just pull the plug, either. He wrote me a passionate letter to let me know he had thought long and hard about what he was going to do. He said he had been up nights tossing but felt he had no choice but to let me pass… he just could not deal with me.
He apologized though there was not one reason why he should have, other than he knew I would feel feel pain due the separation. And he said nothing at all derogatory. He simply stated his truth. He was in pain and he felt he needed to isolate himself so he could work things through.
This was a number of years ago. I came to understand his position. You can be a kind, generous person and he was. He was mentor type and I know he liked me and valued the interaction as much as I did at one time but I was killing him. I was pretty much his entire inner circle, and while it was not my intention, I was sucking the life right out of the guy. In hindsight I would say I was freakishly greedy and insensitive and in short, this was a friend I deserved to lose.
I have since learned to consciously amputate myself and when I do I always recall the example this guy set. I make sure there is no other option because while I know the other person is going to bleed, I think it comes back on you twice as hard. In other words, though I don’t know, I’m pretty sure his pain was beyond my own.
It’s so painful when this happens in my life I don’t ever want to reattach to anyone who has pushed me to the edge where I had to detach. I just don’t trust them which is the same thing that happened with my friend. I know because I rattled his cage now and then for a number of years. He never responded and I know why. But here’s the point I want to make:
I could go on and on and about how cold this guy was shutting down the way he did. Pooooor Elsa. But fact is I did something that provoked his actions. Matter of fact I did one hundred things that provoked his actions. I’d just say if you find yourself amputated by Scorpio, you might want to check your own stuff. This is especially true if you know them to be an above board type.
Because Scorpio doesn’t (generally) explain, it’s easy to call and consider yourself their victim when you’re anything but. People are human and they have their limits and so many people ask to be cut. They beg and beg for it. They won’t stop until they’ve completely done you in and when you finally make a defensive strike, this is their cue to cry injury. Whatever. I have little sympathy. I have seen the movie only about a million times.
Have you ever been frozen out by Scorpio? Or if you are Scorpio (or a reasonable facsimile) have you ever felt yourself forced to amputate? How’s this feel on your end?
I have a scorpio stellium…I amputate, after a lot of agonising on my part and definitely as a last resort… I try and talk things out, I try and work things out in my head…I take a lot of shit before I say enough…
I have recently amputated my ex, who is a Scorp AC (our ascendants are within 3 degrees of eachother but I am a Sadge AC with a 12th H scorpio Sun, he is Aries)…I didn’t think he saw it coming, since I tried to be okay with his totally selfish behaviour months after our break up…but then I had to give up, he was already going out with a woman 20 years younger than him and started that relationship within months after breaking up with me and a relationship where we were going to get married…then he started writing me emails of how he missed me and how important i was etc…I confronted and said I know about your relationship you should stop writing all this, he didnt stop, I stopped responding, it was painful still to receive his emails on one hand and know his news of the projects and travels with his new girlfriend who had totally replaced me in his life…he didnt want to let go of me and I was so heartbroken, he called me because I didnt answer his mails…I said, it’s enough, I have nothing to say to him, I have lost him and he has lost me too…He is still trying in strange ways, being very indirect about it…It’s still painful, because I love him but I cannot take it anymore for my sanity, for my life…
So yes, I amputate, when it’s absolutely absolutely necessary and I am sure I can vouch for other scorpios that it’s equally painful to be on this end as it is on the receiving end.
I have amputated people when I could no longer bear to have them in my life. It is very painful for me, but I must protect myself. Taking a thorn out hurts but it has to be done before the flesh rots.
– Scorpio sun and ascendant.
This is an interesting topic because I used to believe the only time I “amputated” a person was when they stabbed me in the back (unforgettable, imo and therefore impossible to continue a relationship with). I rationalized that they were untrustworthy and did not deserve my friendship. This is a true belief. I am far from perfect but the loss of my friendship will make them regret they ever told my secrets (or whatever great injustice was done by them) because they will miss me. I think I still believe this but it hasn’t happened in a long, long time.
Ha! It’s no wonder a Scorpio moon (me) is so mistrustful.
Lately however, I noticed that I have been shutting out someone who has been a friend for a very long time. This is because I feel badly after we speak. I feel like she’s judging me and that she doesn’t “get” me anymore. This is difficult for a Scorpio moon – to be in a relationship where we don’t really connect. I have not “amputated” her and would never want to hurt her but the thing is, with Scorpio moon, relationships are profound and are not entered into lightly. If something is amiss, it does have to be removed completely. I’m not sure why, maybe because we don’t do half-measures. It’s just the way it is.
I understand self-preservation. However, what this person did was mean and there is no explanation for it. From my perspective we went from friends to zero in no time and he refused to explain it. But, he was never able to communicate, he always shut down when it came to talking about feelings. My observation is that is why he is a big partier, always planning big destination trips with big groups of people and it’s always a big party – stay busy so you don’t have to think kind of thing. He is not the type that you can have a deep conversation with, he won’t let you. I believe I was the only person in his life that was grounded and had those kind of conversations. I wasn’t taking recreational drugs and drinking every weekend to numb myself. He ended up resenting me for it is what I think. He was also not the “great friend” that I read about Scorps being. He was a complete flake and lied to me several times, as he did all his “friends”. I was always there for him because I believed he had more potential than he was showing and I believed I saw good in him, I know I saw glimpses of it. When he was with me he wanted to be good – I was the light attracting the dark. It is so hard to move past it because of me knowing him to be one way towards me and then turning into some evil person who refused to ever speak to me with no explanation and all I have is what my sister tells me to go on. I feel like I am in the Twilight Zone. I have never had conflict like this with anyone.
Chasing Kelly
I think Scorpios (and those with strong Scorpio influences such as Scorpio moons) can amputate THEMSELVES or parts of themselves, I know a Scorpio moon (square sun) who just is so driven they never really confront or deal with their emotions, until they come out in illness. Likewise with damaged people, I know one who started counselling but stopped as the “can if worms” was too big it would never go away. So they locked it up and threw away the key.
I can see this will be a very long healing for you. Believe me I’ve been there (still am in many ways) please don’t waste your life pining after someone who can’t change, until he heals and starts to understand and love himself (you are not his saviour or counsellor) he will only cause heart ache and destruction. People who are that damaged are actually very adept with evoking emotion in others quite naturally but freeze when it comes to dealing with their own, but they crave and want closeness and emotion but cannot let go to trust, you will end up a dried husk, they can be like emotional vampires. As empathetic as I am to whatever scars they may have, there is a point when behaviour is either “right” or “wrong”, he is and should be an adult.
In my case I have a passive aggressive Scorpio who does NOT amputate as such, but pushes and tests to see if I will (he has moon/mars Cancer) but ACTIONS are the things to trust not words. Damaged people operate on a different level of (in) sensitivity, they don’t even notice things that may really hurt you because they have become numb and cut off their own sensitivities.
I think this has been valuable to me hearing this as I read back my own words from a few months back and realise I have a way to go…please understand this is not preaching…I am going through the same thing just perhaps a bit further along.
This Stellium passage of so many planets in Scorpio has us all examining the nature of cutting off, sacrifice, unconditional giving and intensity, death both real and metaphorical. It’s tough, Scorpio gets to our very souls, the deepest parts of us we perhaps didn’t even know existed, the ugliness ..and the light…it’s transformational, if you must burn be a Pheonix!!
Some peoples behaviour deserves to be put in the freezer! ..but generally speaking I think just cutting people off with no explanation or attempt at healing is immature…it shows an unwillingness to confront things and forgive and ultimately is actually worse for the amputators psyche than the person they cut off. Yes there are unforgivable behaviours that breach our standards and expectations for ourselves but the person needs to be told that.
I can relate to First Degree Burn’s comments way back there. It can be a delightful hobby, fueled by the betrayal’s sting. Everybody’s got a different way of getting it out of their system. Some people do it quickly and are done, like maybe Aries. But the deep hurt Scorpio feels sometimes encourages a protracted period of vengeance. Outsiders don’t know how much it can kill a Scorpio inside. Really, you don’t. Saying “get over it” or something like that won’t cut it.
As a Scorpio myself.. We will ice you if we feel you are playing games, superficial, or just not being truthful, or not valuing the relationship. Most of what we believe ..is tied to loyalty and honesty … When two and two don’t add up to four… I immediately seem suspicious.. I will withdraw as long as I need to protect myself…to understand your motives.. When I or if I feel that the relationship should go on … Then I proceed… When I Let go of someone… I grieve for months if not years … It’s not easy to do … Or is fun… I will think about that person frequently….this is quiet painful!
Do Scorpios really stay away from deep loving connections? Why did he push me to the limit with his passive aggressive words and his mind games, contact then no contact? I lost it and said he disgusted me. I have never been so hurt by anyone before. I never let anyone in before until him. I cared more tha he realizes but I had to protect myself. He didn’t argue back, just froze me out. How can a person that says they care for you, treat you like dirt ? I lost it, expressed my hurt. Are Scorpios so darn perfect they think they are above hurt? I feel they are really missing the big picture. I only freeze out people that break my trust.
I just ran across your article. I am a Libra with Taurus rising. My daughter is Scorpio, Aries rising. We were the best of friends during her teen years and even into her young adult years. We’ve had plenty of fights along the way — some of which I could she her cutting out of her life for. After she got married we maintained the closeness even though she was living in another state. I paid for her wedding, made the floral arrangements and paid for and shipped the decorations. She thanked me and I was happy, but I never put myself in the position of making it an issue for my own gratification. Last May she went 50/50 with her brother on a Mother’s Day gift for me. In July she started emailing me about how she had asked her brother for advice about getting a passport. His response was the same as that given by Homeland Security. She didn’t like the answer and instead of addressing her contention with him, she peppered me with emails about how she was through with him. The emails were so profuse coming to my work email, I had to block her. I then sent her a letter and told her that she was handling the issue in a negative way and that it seemed that when it came to family members, she always took the negative road. She immediately cut me off (froze me out) and told her friends on Facebook that I had hurt her feelings and that she had decided to cut me out of her life in June. I’m confused. A Mother’s Day gift in May; she decides to cut me out of her life in June, but then contacts me in July to create an issue so she can cut me out of her life??? As a Libra, I am cut to the core. What hurts more is that she is due to deliver a child and I am to be forever cut out of the child’s life. What can I do to get our relationship back on track with my daughter and have a relationship with my granddaughter?
And you scorps out there, stop the free therapy sessions for all your thankless so called friends. Let people take full responsibility for their problems and learn to work them out on their own or with the help of a fully qualified psychotherapist who is PAID to do that job.
Scorps, you think you’re doing people a favour but you’re sooo not. You’re simply supporting them in their refusal to take their emotional issues seriously enough to seek expert professional help. Why should they when they have you on tap.
And the karmic repercussions on scorpios as they misguidedly take on problems that other people refuse to shoulder themselves are substantial, often leaving them weak, exhausted and depleted, often without a word of thanks or appreciation from their beneficiaries. It’s funny how they all remember how incredibly important you are to them when you’ve finally cut them off for good.
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I have read through most of the comments. Its hard to read some of it. Boy people have a lot to say about Scorpio. I don’t think there is another sign where people have this much to say. Sounds like a lot of you really LOVED the Scorpio person are were really taken by them…..
I know this. A lot of Scorpios were abused as children. By adulthood most have seen the dark side of human nature and know it well….and can see through bullshit.
I think Scorpio is the must misunderstood sign. I also think next to Pisces its the most USED sign. You need a friend to listen to you agonize endlessly ….you need one to prop you up and give you what you need and then kick you back in the ring….. call your Scorpio.
More later…..
I have a Scorpio stellium. I’m not as strong as people percieve me to be. It takes a lot of energy to manage my tumultuous inner landscape. I just don’t always have a lot for others. I’m sure some would call me self absorbed. I am actually. But it’s better for those around me. I don’t want to take them to the abyss with me. I don’t want to destroy anyone.
Another thought. People are confused by me because my decisions and conclusions seem to be drawn out of thin air. When in fact I have agonized and put myself through hell to express myself. I have to be around people that take my words seriously. If I say “I’m tired”, that means “I’ve been tired for a long time and I’m struggling with it.” This is actually one of my gauges for a potential relationship. What is their reaction when I speak from my soul?
That’s all I can write at the moment though I have a lot of thoughts. Thanks for writing this Elsa:)
I’m this close to freezing someone out. I thought it might be helpful for others to know what’s going on in scorpios head right before the freezing out happens. In this case it seems like everytime I think things are ok between us he will say or do something that makes me feel like he’s suspicious or unsure about me. He’s actually used the words “I’m unsure”. It’s making me feel very insecure. It’s very uncomfortable because I feel like I’ve been a very good friend to this person. I mean I’m a human being but I’ve been there for him. Ultimately why I feel the need to pull away is because I’m not being appreciated. If I feel for a second that my presence is not wanted or valued I do not feel comfortable. Im feeling very taken for granted. Who wants to feel like that? I’m sure other signs would deal with these feelings in a different way but I just want OUT. I feel powerless and I have to feel powerful. Not over him but over myself. I’m not going to put myself in a position to be vulnerable with this person if my feelings are not going to be treated with respect. I’m sure he’ll be surprised because I’ve always been available. And I haven’t expressed how crappy I feel. I’m not saying it’s right or cool at all. But it’s how Im able to survive in this situation. And ultimately I want people around me that support me and who I am and help me with my survival, not threaten it.
I should also mention that i am dreading doing this. I know it will hurt me more than it hurts him. I know this. I know I will be in for a lot of pain and anguish. But I will have my personal power.
I didn’t go through all comments – too many! – but yes, I’ve been frozen out by a Scorpio last year. I had the most intense crush over this foreign guy who played in my band, a witty, handsome, sexy as hell Virgo rising. He started being flirty with me and sh*t and I led him on. We started having very deep conversations, but I can be a tad too intense when I’m into someone – I wanted to dig into his Soul and maybe it was too much too soon for him. So at some point he kinda cut me off, only to come back later on a seldom basis. We no longer talk as much as we used to but I know the attraction was mutual and maybe still is, he just doesn’t seem to want to go back there anymore especially now that I have a committed relationship to take care of (which he’s aware of).
But still.. I still think Scorpios are among the most fascinating creatures of this Planet, and I really Love them.
Self-preservation and/or punishment. It sends a message. But it’s not a message you can reply to. It is one you have to live with. It’s final.
Wow, this was an interesting post and the comments (yes, I read every single one) were just as fascinating and eye-opening. The fact that the comments have continued literally for YEARS says a lot… this is a fascinating subject. Soup said something I wonder about, “I know this. A lot of Scorpios were abused as children. By adulthood most have seen the dark side of human nature and know it well….and can see through bullshit. I think Scorpio is the must misunderstood sign. I also think next to Pisces its the most USED sign. You need a friend to listen to you agonize endlessly ….you need one to prop you up and give you what you need and then kick you back in the ring….. call your Scorpio.”
I find this to be a perfect description of me… I suffered horrible abuse as a child. I won’t go into the details. But I have put up with horrible things out of people, all the while thinking I was the problem, because that’s what I was told most of my life by those closest to me, so I believed them for years. Not till I met my very stable Libra husband 21 years ago did I start down the path to healing. It’s been a long hard road, but I’m getting there. Now I don’t tolerate that bullshit anymore. I’m 48 years old and my abusive mother just passed away last year, giving me the first moments of peace. I really should have given up on that toxic relationship when I was 18, but I hung in there for dear life, thinking someday she would come to value and appreciate me in some way. Never happened. After her death, my family didn’t even tell me she had passed… they held the funeral without me. Did I mention these people are not even my blood? Yeah, I was adopted. So that was pretty much the final straw for me. I didn’t even get any closure, so at that point I simply cut them off entirely. Amputated, finally.
I was fortunate enough to find what remains of my biological family, and to my great relief they don’t resemble my nasty adoptive family AT ALL. They’re pretty cool, actually. Well, after all this stuff, I have decided that it is perfectly okay not to subject myself any longer to toxic relationships, and I have easily amputated a few more unhealthy friendships without so much as a backwards glance. It’s sort of like spring cleaning, and I feel SO much better. I finally figured out that it wasn’t ME that was the problem… most of my friends never treated me that way, my son and husband never treated me that way… those people were just crazy, and I was crazier for putting up with it! Never again!
I’m a Scorpio sun and rising Aquarius. I personally have freezed people out, mostly as lessons to those people and I usually do it gently and slowly cut off all contact. I also do it when I feel that the other person is relying on me too much and using me. I’ve mostly only frozen people out because I feel they need to be able to live on their own without me doing things for them. Also, to determine if a Scorpio is a friend and is only testing you by being cruel or if they don’t like you and is being cruel, look at how they interact with those around them. Personally, my tests aren’t difficult or painful as I am only testing for honesty and intelligence but I will become cruel if I find someone annoying and I will find the best way to hurt them without seeming like it to anyone on the outside.
I recently had to amputate someone. They betrayed me, that’s why. Sometimes it’s just that simple. I could be a phony and pretend to forgive her, but I don’t. Integrity is important to me. And I’m not going to keep her around just to punish her. Because I don’t think I could contain the urge to hurt her.
I finally get this. Completely. Had no idea I was actually the Scorpio (plutonian really). I’ve done this a few times and self-preservation is exactly it. I didn’t know that I was this person until today.
I’ve had to leave a lot of people and places behind because I just don’t have anymore energy to give. In order to live my life I can’t see a single reminder of what I’m leaving behind. I torch it all behind me. It’s not out of malice or entirely out of anger against another person. I miss things but I’m rebuilding and I can’t give away that energy to people that have proven to drain me/ not keep me afloat.
A friend just asked if I liked the intermediary people who also get cut off and I told him it isn’t about that. I like them but it makes no difference. The friend of my enemy is my enemy, to be blunt. I went through hell with their friend, I never want to be even remotely near them again. I don’t want to be around anything that reminds me because its too painful or I don’t get enough out of the interaction. I’m not uplifted by it.
Just saw this above me:”If you’ve ever hit rock bottom, been to hell and back Pluto-style, because of a relationship, you don’t want to go there again… ” – Plutonian If a relationship is beyond salvage because everything about the foundation is rotten and the people involved aren’t willing or able to own their shit and stop accepting the unacceptable I have to go.
I’m also currently learning about the boundaries I lacked, still lack, and how to maintain them. Everytime I’m being tugged back by someone, I struggle with whether or not I can come back to that branch but I don’t believe I can come back at all. Its difficult but its what I have to do for my own sanity right now.
“I literally put people in the freezer. Is that bad?” – Moon Neptune. I hope you’re still doing this and taking requests.
I really don’t understand the whole revenge, getting back to etc. I recently experienced some sort of revenge from a Scorpio girl. She was so paranoid about where I am and what I do and accused me of something that I didn’t do. I never cheated in my life and I believe in fairness and truth. If i’m not happy in a relationship and like someone else i just say it. I fell asleep one night without saying goodnight and she accused me of cheating lol.
Everyone has been hurt in life, but revenge in my eyes it’s exactly the opposite of what you Scorpios thing it is…it’s just weakness. Looking back she planned her revenge to a T for couple weeks. I chose to ignore her act and asked her to please get out of my life, no one needs such controlling and manipulative psychos in their life.
And for you Scorpios that get hurt and try to justify your partner’s cheating acts: let’s not forget that you signed up in a partnership, your fault for being in that relationship and partially your fault for the relationship not working.
So stop wining, learn from it, forgive and you will become a better person.
Im a Pisces with a rising in Capricorn & moon in Gemini. I feel the only sign that can handle my complex personality is Scorpio & what I’ve come to realize about those “mind games” is that your Scorpio is just figuring you out .If you feel a Scorpio has figured you out and is playing with your emotions SPEAK UP. Tell them they know everything. Tell them they are geniuses & that they know just what to do to piss you off .Always Give them space to process you . They don’t always know how they feel til they completely understand your emotional patterns for themselves. I usually channel my anger into sexual energy so my Scorpio wife makes me mad on purpose now. Im financially stable &ridiculously generous to my wife and im being completely honest when i say her body is the only body I get hard for. She is my princess and im a free spirit so i try not to make her feel caged in whenever shes with me .she means the world to me .I guess my obsessiveness works for her advantage in that area .we’ve been married for 6 years and my advice is be yourself and I speak your mind. Give space for yourself and your partner so you can have energy to love each other properly .Communication is key .Scorpio is a sign that hides their feelings already so both partners being secretive about how they feel won’t be very beneficial to the relationship. Just a tip
I went through two scorpio amputations (just a correct word) and they were both so similar that my psyche related these two together automatically: I dreamt of the first scorpio almost every night for a whole month when I first met the second scorpio. They both just decided to never respond to me or meet me again. The first one was a friend from school whom I spent a lot of time with during university because I wasn’t interested in making new friends since I was terribly depressed and it was fun being together anyway. I never talked to him about it. After many years of simply being stupefied about why he ended things so suddenly, I started doubting that he may have been developing feelings towards me and just decided to cut things off before things went down the hill. The second scorpio was even a bigger mystery box because he approached me personally. It would make one think he was interested and we know how relentless scorpios get about things that interest them. I did nag to him about my day to day difficulties and listened to his advice as part of my own testing system (capricorn sun, etc..) but I never over did it. I dont leach onto people for emotional support, that’s just how it is. We mostly talked about diverse things and interests. But then, just when I realized that he became totally comfortable with me and dropped the knight in the shining armor act, he started to vanish for months and then turn up again and became vindictive and disagreed with me on everything or simply ignore me during conversations. I got angry but I was ever forgiving and took everything that went wrong as part of my shortcomings because I really did like him (with my venus, mars and asc in Pisces) and I tried to make things click back on properly again. Funny thing is, the more I tried the worse things got. And then came the amputation. And so, I believe that self preservation for Scorpio works in two ways although it’s all related to the fact that sometimes they can’t handle the depths of their emotion towards a person: (1) if the person is too abusive and (2) if they are not ready to invest in it… which is what happened with me I guess.
I’m a Virgo female with Venus/Mars Scorpio and I met a Scorpion male about 3weeks ago…we had great conversation, extreme chemistry, we laughed, talked…then suddenly, he just vanishes on me…Rained Ice down on me and banished me to Siberia…this after telling me that he thought I was the Total Package that he wanted and needed.
I’m sorry…I don’t get it. I did nothing wrong, did not break trust with him or sap him of his precious energy…just a gal wanting to go out on a date with a guy that I was Perfect.
And it’s not the Freezing out that hurts so much..it’s the fact that within this 3wk silent period, I’ve sent emails asking him he he just wanted to forget about it…he answered back, said no…that he didn’t want to hurt me (whatever that meant) and then went silent again.
I’ve tried the sending him emails just to remind him that I’m still interested and genuinely am concerned about him..and crickets…absolutely nothing from him.
As a Virgo, we don’t let people in very much, we don’t allow people to come in too close, so to have this guy gain my trust and just walk away without any explanation or at least a get lost…I don’t get it.
Scorpios are not God’s Gift and no matter how deeply they feel, it needs to be said that there are OTHER PEOPLE ON THE EARTH THAT HAVE FEELINGS TOO.
I find this behavior cruel and childish.
I just sent him an email telling him Later as in MUCH MUCH…and the Scorpio in Venus/Mars will mean he’ll never get the chance to say another word to me…which is sad because had he only explained it to me, I probably would’ve understood.
I don’t understand cruelty and life is too short for games.
Brokenhearted Virgo Gal
I think sometimes I freeze someone out if I feel like I’ve hurt them in some way. It’s more like exiling myself than freezing the other out, but it comes across as something malicious. I think if a scorpio is unsure if they’re good for the other or not they will not engage. Its a compassionate move in the eyes of the scorpio.
Libra Noir — I appreciate your take on the situation and can even understand that a bit…however, I am old enough to know what’s good for me and what’s not.
As I told him in response to his “I don’t want to hurt you more” line, I replied that I should at least be given the opportunity to decide whether or not I wish to continue, and this is what upsets me the most..it feels as though he’s totally taken away my power to decide anything…to engage or not, to communicate or not. I honestly don’t think it’s being done in a malicious manner, but it sure feels manipulative as hell. Yet the flip side of this behavior is also being done with conscious effort — meaning each time I’ve sent him email asking him if he wanted me to just go away, he has responded to that only once with a resounding no.
So, my question is this: If Scorpio are big on trust and fear a partner/potential partner will leave them, how can they (Scorpio) treat others in such a manner? It’s like a self-fulfilling prophecy — push people away enough and most times, they will leave.
Funny thing is , he’s been stalking me on a social website we both belong to. I finally blocked him from viewing my profile and have cut off all avenues of giving him access to me.
If he wants me, he’ll have to surface and say it.
He and I have so many things in common and it really took a lot for me to remove the walls I’d built around my heart and let him in. I mean, he asked me out, we set the time/day for the date, and he just vanished. Gosh..I hadn’t been stood up on a date since high school!
And when I wrote my above post, I was so mad I could’ve spit nails…if he does resurface and approach me, I would speak with him again…but I’ll be much more guarded this time. He won’t find me so amenable this go round because now, I don’t trust that he won’t do it again. I hear that can be a pattern with some Scorps.
In the end though, it’s not about words. It’s about actions.
Actions ALWAYS speak louder than words.
Thanks for your insight though. It is appreciated.
I am a Scorpio mother and have frozen out my own daughter. How I loved her, doted on her…I gave her my heart and soul….she was my sunshine. I was Demeter to her Persephone. She married and had a child, my first grandchild. I thought I couldn’t love a child more than my own daughter but I am besotted with my granddaughter. I also thought that nothing could tear my relationship with my daughter apart, but I was wrong. If you want to hurt a Scorpio, lie to them. If you want a Scorpio out of your life, disrespect them, take them for granted, use them for your own gain. You see, we don’t love easily. When we do, we give ourselves completely but you must be worthy of it. We don’t tolerate, from anyone, deceit, insincerity, ill manners
I am a Scorpio mother and have frozen out my own daughter. How I loved her, doted on her…I gave her my heart and soul….she was my sunshine. I was Demeter to her Persephone, we even got these tattooed on our arms. She married and had a child, my first grandchild. I thought I couldn’t love a child more than my own daughter but I am besotted with my granddaughter. I also thought that nothing could tear my relationship with my daughter apart, but I was wrong. If you want to hurt a Scorpio, lie to them. If you want a Scorpio out of your life, disrespect them, take them for granted, use them for your own gain. You see, we don’t love easily. When we do, we give ourselves completely but you must be worthy of it. We don’t tolerate, from anyone, deceit, insincerity, ill manners, or rudeness. So, there it is…..it’s over.
Lisa I am also a Scorpio mother who has had to step back from my child who I’ve loved so much there are no words. Doted on him gave him my heart and soul, he also my sunshine. Same thing, had a child. My first precious grandchild. This child is the absolute love of my life….I just kept on giving.
I have been used, talked about, lied to, talked to like dirt, schemed for money, taken for granted, oh the deceit, insincerity, ill manners and rudeness …and he also let his wife do it.
It’s over. I will always love and adore my child but until he is mature enough to reciprocate and give some love and concern in return. I have to step back. It’s hurts too much. Hurts so much I have walked around unable to function. No….no more. The pain is just too great.
I used to be obsessed with figuring out this sign- I wanted to understand how someone is able to touch something inside you so deeply, to understand you without any words spoken. Scorpio is beyond fascinating and mysterious. I have always attracted them since I was knew high, lol. First experience was 4th grade, my first crush. It’s always the same kind of dynamics at first. Like the staring and energy dance, eye sexing etc… it’s a lot of fun…way too much fun to be the Scorpios object of interest. My first boyfriend was Scorpio, I was 12… I seriously will never forget how I felt when I was pulled in by him. Its was like heaven on earth honestly. I was treated like a queen in the center of my own fairyland. Now he’s my husband. A big time lapse happened from Jr high to the time we married. In the mean time, inbetween not seeing each other, I fell deeply in love with another Scorpio. The true love of my life. But circumstance was always in the way of us being together. He has always loved me from afar..extremely deeply. But out of compassion, he didn’t engage when I wanted him to. He engaged when he wanted to, to find out something… or when he had a moment of weakness, or wanted to make love to someone who loves him more than anyone else ever could..who knows? He definitely knew something I didn’t. Ah well…
Well, I guess the writing’s on the wall. I think he’s really gone and has chosen someone else. I am devastated.
I just don’t understand how he could have engaged me, got me to open up and tell him my heart’s desire and then just drop me like a bad habit.
Of course I have no proof of this…just something I feel, even though I’ve been holding out hope..hope against hope. It took a very long time for me to get to a place where I could let someone in and now I feel as though I’ve been knocked back 100 paces, kicked in the stomach and spat on.
The really devious thing was that I found out he had been “stalking” my profile online for quite sometime and even managed to run off one of my friends…he won’t even speak to me now. I am honestly baffled by how this all happened but moreso, WHY?
Out of all the people on the site, he chose me to hurt. I am so…I don’t even have words for it.
Now, I will have to figure out a way to balance what he has done to me against how I will have to approach new guys that might be interested in me….I just can’t believe that he’s taken me back to a place where I said I never wanted to be again.
Maybe this was the lesson? To go back and review how I approach love? I don’t know.
I am just beyond devastated, shocked and very, very sad.
I’m sorry 🙁 I understand the pain. I wish they did explanations, but they just don’t, usually. It sucks. Just try to be the best version of yourself you can be. This is sort of vengeful thinking, but they don’t like to see people to get over them easily. It most likely will bother him.
If he sees you move on easily and are doing even better than before, he might even come back into your life. This may be manipulative, but it’s worked for me. Although I was a teenager when I did this, so.. But, I do know Scorpio.
Yes, I have heard this about Scorps. But using this tactic could totally backfire on me…you know…
“Be careful what you wish for.”
Besides being manipulative is NEVER good Karma.
Sorry to hear your pain, I underatabd similar has happened. Who knows why….could be anything from an ill equipped emotional reaction to a sociopathic one…the important thing is to 100% realise it’s about his issues not you. Hard I know when you trust and open up but 9/10 “rejection” is more about the other person than ourselves. Don’t let this stop you from loving but sift through it for the lesson being easy on yourself…there always is one 🙂
You know, I’m in my mid 40’s, so it’s not as though I’ve never had heartache before, and I’m not even mad/hurt over him going with someone else…it’s not about that.
Some people might read my first post and be like: “But dang, it was only 3weeks that you met/knew him. That’s not even a relationship.”
I tell you that it is. Each of us, are in relationships with the other once you meet them and have some kind of interaction. We are in relationships to those we work with, those we casually know in lives.
Yet somehow, I never picked up on this facet of his personality. Which is rather odd, since I have a lot of Water in my chart (Virgo Sun, Cap Ascendant, Gemini Moon, then the rest is Cancer, Pisces in the 12th and Scorpio). I’m usually able to pick up on undercurrents of things..but Him…I never saw it coming that it would transpire the way that it did.
One thing I can tell you is that once you reach my age, hopefully, you understand very quickly that it’s okay to be rejected by someone. My Grandma had a saying: “Rejection is the Universe’s/God’s Protection.” So like I said, I’m not upset that he found someone. Truth of it is, I’m glad because this means that he won’t have an opportunity to further hurt/damage me emotionally.
I called up my BFF, she married a Scorp and asked her husband what he thought of the situation, by letting him read a few emails from him. He says that he thinks I scared him. That once he discovered that I was capable of giving him the relationship that he actually wanted, he got scared and ran. Because as he put it: “Any man that says he likes you/wants you/desires you the way he told you, no matter how busy he is, will make the time to see/be with you. This is particularly true with Scorpios.”
This made a lot of sense to me.
As for moving on and living the good life…that’s gonna be pretty easy. I say this because, in hindsight, it is a VERY GOOD THING that it was so brief. This means that I wasn’t too emotionally invested in the thing and with Pisces in my 12th house (house of secrets/hidden things/subconscious), I am able to process a lot of things when I dream. And dream I did last night. Typically when I dream, I dont’ remember it very vividly, but it usually consists of me sitting straight up in bed from a dead sleep with the message the only thing remaining.
My message this morning at 3:53am was: “Let it go.” And just like that, I felt better.
My friend’s husband says to be vigilant, that he’s going to be back “because he desires you.” And that any Scorpio male that is willing to state that so quickly, so openly is already “obsessed with you.”
Had he caught me out like this 20yrs ago, I would make him pay upon his return (Scorpio in Venus/Mars), but now older age and wisdom just says to “pick your battles wisely.” It’s not worth my time.
Thanks for all the support. But I’m going to be okay…in fact, better than okay. Today is a whole nother 24hrs.
I wokeup this morning feeling much better and with a different, more positive outlook.
Great! And I agree with much of what you say…
The “love of my life” is a Scorpio…he bolted and hurt me dreadfully… But we stayed in contact (no intimacy) and 4 years later we are good friends, he is not capable of being in a relationship (depression) he also feels he can’t provide for me as he would like to (which is his issue) and I decided he is not good for me…He as much told me it (ne and us) all terrified him…I love him so much but it is what it is and we’ve found peace after much haranguing each other. He is better as a friend but I do rely on his strength to keep it there as there is big chemistry between us.
Elemis:
Thank you for sharing.
I think the strangest thing about this ordeal, is that right from the get-go…it was as if we’ve known each other our entire lives.
I read Tarot cards (but in this instance, I had to go my other friend that reads cards because I was too close to the situation to have an objectivity)..I had her do a couple of readings and what she said was that it was a Past-Life connection/Karmic.
Which is true because we both remarked on how comfortable we felt with each other. My horoscopes for the entire month of March kept saying that I would encounter a Past-Life Teacher/Guru and that it would be eye-opening experience…then to boot, he appeared out of nowhere on March 22nd, the day of an Full Moon Eclipse in Libra.
He expressed that he wanted to be “open, honest and communicate with me”…the he knew what he “liked”, and that he was “open to answering any questions” that I had.
He wanted to “take it to the next level.”
We even discussed that Karma/Destiny/Fate/Free Will.
All-in-all, this gives me some small measure of comfort…that he did like me and that it is his Free Will that makes this situation so. My card reading friend says that the Universe will continue to work out his Free Will and to expect a message sometime around the new Full Moon in Scorpio {May 4th}. That it would be a message that would make clear everything and that the Universe would let me know that “it is meant for me.” Don’t know what the it is, and not too concerned about it either.
She says that he’s still stuck in the past pain of his previous relationship and that meeting me was too much for him, so he chose to find someone else to help assuage his pain/guilt, but that in time, he would find that I was the “real deal”…and also to be vigilant because the 8 of Wands was the outcome…he would be back.
It’s just too bad that he has poor communication skills. Because, really, I’ve been in that dark place of dealing with the pain of a bad breakup. I’ve been in that place where I was stuck and couldn’t move…for 11yrs!
I’ve had two dates in 11yrs and have been celibate for 9 of those eleven…so yea, I can SO totally relate.
I’ve had a Saturn transit for the past 12yrs and I swear, I don’t want to incur any bad Karma…mine is clear right now, and this means that even though I won’t allow him back in, if he does contact me, I will at least forgive him.
Sounds crazy, right? LOL
No not crazy, mines sun/uranus is exact conjunct my South Node I always knew it was an inevitable parting and encounter. I would see signs with his name on it all the time (unusual) and I had a synchronous incident about us that to this day I find hard to comprehend. I think strangely he believes it more than I (and I’m the esoteric one!)
It’s taken me 4 years to get truly over the longing. Having him help by talking to me and being open was both a blessing and curse.
I know it’s horrible not having direct answers but scarred people can be hurtful. You have a great understanding and strength to move forward.
Life is short …we must move forward
Blessings to you xx
“Any man that says he likes you/wants you/desires you the way he told you, no matter how busy he is, will make the time to see/be with you. This is particularly true with Scorpios.” True. Unless it’s that he is hung up on someone else. If this is the issue, he will probably never tell you this, of course. Sometimes, Scorpios I’ve known, hold out for people for a long time. They have trouble letting go sometimes. He may have developed feelings for you, and backed off because he didn’t want his feelings for you to overshadow his feelings for whoever he still holds onto. Anyhoo…you should come to the boards if you need advice. More people may weigh in.
PIseas314 – Thank you for your insight.
On a rational level, I understand what you are saying and this too makes perfect sense, and if this is indeed the case, I can respect and accept it.
Since I’ve no way of knowing for certain what is going on with him, I can only go with what my intuition is telling me (and even this could be way off the mark–but I don’t feel it is).
In the past, when something of this nature has occurred (offering love and being rejected), I would just walk away and never look back, however, there is something quite different about this situation.
I don’t know why I feel that I should I offer him love and compassion when he is obviously so not willing/ready to accept it from me. I can only say that I deeply feel that I am to do, without any expectation of his acceptance…do it because I feel that I should assist him into stepping into his “Full Power”…to become his authentic self.
Yes, I will admit that I wish to be there in his life if/when this happens, but yet understand/accept that I may not be in the final chapter. This is okay with me.
I will come back periodically and update any changes or not.
And if I need any advice, I will most definitely avail myself of any offers of assistance/advice that may be forthcoming from people here.
Again, thanks.
Here’s an update:
Last time I was here, I said that I would be receiving some message or that something would be revealed over the Scorpio full moon….
Well…it happened…only I can’t make heads or tails of it.
No. I did not receive a message from said Scorpion Male…
What happened was this…but first let me preface what I’m about to say with a statement:
There is some kind of major shift/transformation/awakening going on in my life, and not to be all metaphysical, but this is not something that one can discuss with lots of people, so I came here because You Scorpions here, will understand…not what is happening in my situation, but will understand the idea or transformational processes.
So here goes:
On the 1st May, I was still kinda feeling in a funk about the whole situation between (Let’s call him Sentinel) and myself. I realized that I was in grieving process even though I wasn’t consciously aware of it. I also realized at this point, that it was okay to grieve and in doing this, that heavy, dark feeling seem to lift…Systems Go.
On 2nd May, I decided to go hang out in the Nature Preserve by my house…just be in Nature and all that means. While sitting on a bench, I asked the Universe to send me some kind of sign that “this” (Sentinel or the situation) was meant for me.
A few minutes later, I was looking up a the bright, blue sky and saw a cloud that seemed to come down towards me….it was the strangest sensation of like falling. None of the other surrounding clouds seemed to exhibit this behavior, so I continued looking…cloud kept coming down towards me..I kept falling.
So, I got scared. Got up and walked away.
And the Virgo in me came out most strongly: Wind Currents. This particular cloud was being manipulated by wind currents, nothing more…just a pocket of air making the cloud do this strange thing.
And I left it at that. But…when I got back home, I couldn’t shake the feeling that the Universe had sent me a message..I just wasn’t willing to accept what I saw, so I asked the Universe to send me another message/sign…one that I would MOST DEFINITELY not mistake for anything else.
Morning of May 3rd…I wake up at 5am..bathroom..to the kitchen to make coffee. I wake my daughter up at 5:30am. We have breakfast and she goes into the bathroom to get herself ready for school. Five minutes after she goes in…she runs out screaming bloody murder….I’m thinking it’s a spider, as she has a fear of spiders…Me: “What the hell?” She’s trembling and only points into the bathroom..I’m thinking..It must be a Nuclearized Spider…20ft big…right?
Instead, what I find is 5″ Scorpion in my bathroom sink. I almost fell through the floor. Granted, I live in Texas. Granted, there are Scorpions here. But in all the years I’ve lived here in TX, I’ve NEVER FOUND A SCORPION IN MY HOUSE. Moreorless, in my bathroom. I took a picture of it, because I couldn’t believe it myself.
Then too, for the past two nights, I’ve had the strangest dreams. And this morning, I woke up at 2:22am. I looked that up on the Angel Numbers site and it was interesting.
So…I have received some kind of messages, only I don’t know exactly what they mean..at least not yet.
What has happened though in terms of Sentinel..is that there has been then attitude of indifference that has come over me…meaning, at this point, I don’t care what the outcome will be/is.
And maybe…this was/is the lesson…to learn to detach yet still maintain a feeling of love/compassion…Does that even make sense?
I don’t know…but that’s how I feel…detached, but compassionate and loving.
Anyway…this is my update and if anything else develops, I will come back and share.
And a bit thanks to all you Scorpions here on the board…believe it or not…I feel safer here with you guys than anyone else.
Particularly in explaining whatever this is that is happening with me. I think you guys will “get” it.
I had similar messages and synchrobicities one to this day I still have trouble believing
Definitely that was my lesson …love with non attachment which is a Buddhist philosophy
Elemis:
Being a practicing Buddhist…I know this well and thought I was doing really well with this aspect. I have learned to release attachment to many things in my life and this has served me well.
Which is why I am so taken aback with this particular situation…I’m not sure how to process it.
Intuitively, I know this is what the situation tells me, but where I’m stymied is, how I was caught so off guard and fell back into attachment…
The Universe is indeed a strange, wonderful thing and it’s Power is Awesome. LOL
Thanks for sharing.
yes i definitely get the “get it” i am a female scorpio, dated a pisces for year. Went really well, ended very bad, he moved different states. We’ve been broken up for about month. I went through so much emotions and he never seemed to care or value the relationship as much as i did. All he did was pick and i always tried to improve. i kinda had to revaluate my life and figure things out. And then one day i was hanging with my friends and we texted once that day and we snapchatted a couple times, i then decided to just not talk to him for some reason, i just got the sense of not caring anymore. I still of course have an eager deep inside but it doesn’t over power me. i feel ready to let go. He did call me like 4 times i only answered once only bc he neeed me. I always have the door open for you if you need someone, i will keep my distance and remain aloof. It’s very true, when we freeze someone. That’s it. He kinda got mad at me for me being me and me being there for him i guess? idk pisces. He blocked me or whatever. I usually would freak out and try and get his attention. But i felt no care. I care for him. But we really do get to a limit and it’s like we don’t even mean to feel this way. It’s our way to protect ourself, literally, naturally. He’s toxic, it’s funny bc he really tried so hard to get my attention and i really didnt bother. I’ve seen in others posts. “I’ve done this before, but ive grew up. i don’t let much people into my life” That is also me. i’m surprised how unexpectedly it came. It’s a relief. I really do enjoy before a scorpio:)
I’ve just been frozen out by my Scorpio friend just recently. At least I think so. It started on the beginning of our senior year. I knew him in past years but I never really talked to him. We became friends through a leadership class and we were always good friends to each other. I myself am a Aries with a Leo moon and a Libra rising. Anyways we started off great and it lasted like that until the second semester. By then, he knew everything about me. I could tell he trusted me and that I was dear friend to him as well. Yet I didn’t know a whole lot about him. So I kept on going into the relationship trying to pull some stuff out of him. He was silent the entire time. He then started ignoring my texts, communicated with me less and less, and soon started acting quite douchey. By the end of senior year, he stopped talking to me. I have never stopped being a good friend and will not stop. I know everyone has their secrets, but if he trusts me, he shouldn’t have to keep private about anything unless it’s absolutely necessary. And event though it was a quiet leaving, it felt heart-wrenching and terrible on my part. I really wish I had my friend back. Or I wish I could confront him about it without him hiding in his sheep or only giving small talk.
Hiya 🙂
Not everyone is as comfortable as you seem to be with opening up. Many Scorpios in my experience aren’t and are very secretive. This shouldn’t necessarily be an indicator of how much they trust you. I’m not sure of the nature of your relationship but personally I don’t think you need to know everything about anyone to have a good relationship, it’s not about withholding secrets, it’s just some people need a private space. Personally I’ve a very open person but I would start feeling uncomfortable even if an intimate partner starting pushing or trying to pull information out of me.
Just a different view and hope you can mend your friendship 🙂
I am a Scorpio , I do cut people off and yes we do have a sense about people , its not so much a judging as it is a gut feeling , if I see someone I’ve never spoke to or met but I get a bad feeling an impression about them I will never speak to them I’ve been on this earth 42 years and I can honestly say time tested my gut is never wrong , the times I ignored was always the times I found myself in bad situations . the times I listened it saved me a lot of headaches so yes I always listen to my impression (my gut) first . Plus I recently went through amputation of a friendship and a family member , I was constantly berated by nonsense from two female friends as well as them trying to use me repeatedly , I stopped talking to them twice b4 it happened a few days the first time , almost a week the second time and they were very disloyal , I would stick my neck out for them stick up for them but when it came down to me I was told they weren’t getting involved they never had my back , so I cut them off three weeks ago , they kept trying to talk to me even asking me if I was mad , til it got to a point where I had to text them and tell them why I cut them off and that I never want to be bothered with them again , my sister as well after years of her abuse of alcohol and drugs I had to tell her I was done with her too she was a drunk who cares about no ones feelings but her own and I’m not that way I worry about everyone’s feelings , and unfortunately if u make me feel like I’m wasting my time or I dnt like you or you make me repeat myself over and over I will cut you off with no recourse , these days people do things to other people and feel they are not supposed to have any repercussions , and they walk blindly through life that way but when they are forced to deal with the repercuss of their actions they act like it is the other persons fault for what they brought on them selves , that is why Scorpios cut people off to avoid the conflict not because we are afraid but because we know the damage we will do if the nonsense continues and the destruction usually comes in verbal and emotional form and if that dnt work we will fuck you up , physically , that is what causes us to cut people off , for their sake not ours
UPDATE:
OMG.
Two months to the day: I hear from HIM? He’s so nonchalant…sounds so happy-go-lucky….
“Hi, how are you. I was absent awhile, but I’m back (on the social media site)…I moved back to Vegas and I just wanted to say, you are a dream and absolutely beautful, but since I’m no longer there it will have to stay a compliment…however, if I were still there, I’d would’ve taken you out every chance I got.”
WHO THE FUCK DOES THIS?
I can’t even process this. I don’t know what to do, what to say or how to even feel. Just when the pain was starting to subside…he SHOWS UP? And acts as if nothing happened?
I AM AT A LOSS FOR WORDS. I can’t even think right now.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Can someone try to explain this to me?
I haven’t even answered him back. I think I’ve just been sitting in front of my computer for the past 45 minutes slack jawed…I’m not even sure….It’s like I’ve been sucked into a wormhole and time no longer exists.
Elsa…
I awoke this morning to another email. But here’s the kicker:
This person claims to be someone totally different…even though the physical description, birth dates and writing styles are EXTREMELY similar.
In this instance, I don’t think a birth chart is going to be of any use, as obviously this person has another agenda.
I’m going to have to ride this one out and just see where it leads as I truly believe that this is the only way that things will be revealed.
I have read the horror stories of Scorpios and mind games and am starting to believe that this person is very crafty, cunning and devious….after I received the first message, I laid out three Tarot cards and the overall message was “false messages, deceit, trickery and cunning.”
I believe indeed, that is one and the same person, but now I’m curious to see just how far he will go.
I will come back as developments occur…OR not.
I am wondering if there is a way to repair the damage done to cause a scorpio to shut down. My partner and I recently decided to have a break, more so on his part. Our relationship has been strained the past few months with an unusual downpour of life’s grievances causing myself unbelievable stress and unknowingly relying on him to much, and causing strain on him and our relationship. After some time apart I’ve seen how unfair I was to put so much pressure on him and in out relationship. I don’t know how to mend and explain this to him as he seems to be closing himself off to me, and I fear I cld have lost any chance I had to salvage and make amends. I’m wondering if there is a way to get through to my scorpio or once he has cut the tie is there no going back? Is there any time limit if so? Thanks for any thoughts xo
I’m a Scorpio woman, deep feeling and want to be loved. If a person I love hurts me I can’t process words to express myself. I don’t feel safe. The last straw is I don’t want to talk to you ,I don’t want to see you for fear I may forgive you in my vulnerable state.I have to protect myself from further hurt.This is how I amputate. Not with words ,with action.
Hi,
I’m a Scorpio Sun, Merc, Venus, Mars. I’ve done the freeze out quite a few times with relationships/friendships. It helps me to just shut out the pain of their major betrayal. It’s like a “clean up” “sweep out the dirt”. There is, however, no going back at that point. If they apologize and are truly remorseful..I greatly appreciate that..however, their is no going back. My top priority is not to hurt THEM… it’s a coping skill. Although, if it does hurt them, that’s an added plus. I was just shut out by my Scorpio moon boyfriend. I apologized, took full responsibility for the heartache I caused him.. I hope he accepts the apology..but I do know it is over..and although I am also heartbroken..I have learned from it..
Okay here’s an update:
Last I was here, June 6th, 2015…I’ve been super busy at work and haven’t had the opportunity to share what I discovered:
I posted on June 6th, that the Scorpio man resurfaced with an email, but had different details. I said that I would talk to this “new” Scorpio man and see what the deal was.
Turns out, It is NOT THE SAME SCORPIO man…but someone completely different after all. The email that was sent to me, in it’s wording, was so dead spot-on in terms of how the situation unfolded, that it made me think it was him.
That the 1st Scorpio male would have been here in my town working and from Vegas was okay, but to have this 2nd Scorpio male be from my town and move to Vegas is something odd….that this 2nd Scorpio male would send me an email that appeared to be an explanation of him moving back to Vegas, etc…causing me to think it was the 1st Scorpio male was truly coincidental and I don’t believe in coincidences…lol
There has been over 90 days of no contact with the 1st Scorpio male and I’ve been trying to come to some type of acceptance over what happened (or didn’t)..which has been/is good for me. Yet, whenever I feel that I’m moving forward, the Universe does something that will bring him back into the forefront…like this 2nd guy showing up with the email. I am beginning to conclude that the Universe does not want me to forget. There are too many synchronistic events happening that are utterly, totally and completely SO out-of-the-ordinary, that it is difficult not to take notice and pay very close, very strict attention to them.
I deleted my profile from the website where I met the 1st Scorpio male and where the 2nd Scorpio male saw me…just trying to minimize whatever is going on, because surely, I do not understand what is happening.
I am slowly healing and making progress, but ever so often, the Universe will send some kind of sign that knocks me back a few feet and I must start all over again.
This is INDEED, still one of the STRANGEST experiences I’ve ever had in my life.
I finally broke down and got two different Tarot readings and they have confirmed what my own readings have been saying: It is NOT OVER between us. The last reader, who is arguably, one of the best I’ve run across, gave me some final words on my reading:
“Prepare yourself because he will return…quite suddenly, unexpectedly and with a force that will knock you down.”
This is something I’ve felt deep down all along.
Now, I’ve read that once you’ve cut-off by a Scorpio, it’s the end-all-to-be-all..But yea…don’t know how I know that he’ll return…I just do. It’s something I feel in every fiber of my being.
Hello All
I am a scorpio november 8th
About 5 years ago I did a major amputation on my whole circle of friends. I like to call it “spring cleaning”. I came to a realization that certain people were jealous, unsupportive, dead weight or it seemed like they were only hanging around me to benefit, or to learn secrets about me to spill them to others to hurt me in the long run. It took me about 5 months to go through with the action. I do admit that I feel better and since the negetive people have been removed, great things have happened in my life. The only thing that I will admit to is that I am still in pain. I have no friends. No one to go dancing with, or even go to the beach and scope out the hotties playing basketball. No fun, just work. I mean I go on dates with guys but my heart longs for that female/female connection. Im a girl girl to the max so its really hard not having a female companion to talk and be silly with.
Ive blocked people, deleted peoples numbers, ignored emails of reconciliation. Most poeple do not miss me until Im dead and gone…and i have emails with then trying to crawl back into my life to prove it.. I read them and laugh and go about my life…. but secretly my heart hurts. It seems like I miss the friends who hurt me the most. Its like the friends I looked up to were the ones who did me in the most…and I just can not get over that. I was loyal I was true and in the end I still feel as though in a way i have lost.
I have a scorpio girl , she says she does not love me yet she acts differently.
Recently she been communicating to me less emotionally and acting cold is this normal or does this mean she lost interest?
She also says if you like me when will you start to worry about me, that’s after she told me she does not love me.
I don’t understand.
Scorpions help please …My scorpion guy broke up with me since may and since then I ve been begging and pleading him to resolve issues with me but he refuse…just few days he told me that there is no love to fight for and he never loved me and I wnt force him to be in a relationship with me…please what should I do… He also told me that there is no hope of me expecting that things will work out.. The last time I called him he warned me not to call again that am barred from calling him and texting him and also I should leave him alone.
Onyi, I am sorry to have to tell you, but when a Scorpio/Plutonian says it is over, that is what they mean. It is better that you move on and find someone else.
And you definitely do not want to push him too far. Time to move on to greener pastures.
Just found out, the hard way, that a S male I know likes me. I say the hard way because he saw me kiss (a peck, but on the lips) a longtime family friend and now he’s giving me the deep freeze. I’m hoping he comes to realize that it wasn’t done to get him jealous and gets past it.
Dear Ladies I hope you can help me!
I’m sagittarius rising sign taurus my scorpio woman abandoned me I think, because she blocked me from whatsapp,facebook and the others!
the reason she forgot my birthday. I’ve waited all day and changed my status at whatsapp about 22.30 at night to remind her it’s my birthday to day.A few minutes later she sent me 5 messages to congratulate it,of course I was disappointed and complained a bit and told her she broke my heart couple of times!
this is my last message I sent her because she blocked me I saw it the other day
”you broke my heart but anyway I always want for you the best because I love you…”
it’s been 14 days I’m still blocked and I can’t reach her to ask what’s wrong!
anyone can give me advise what to do?
I’m a scorpio and a young lady and I do amputate many relationships. The only people I don’t amputate are my family because to me, family is the most important thing. I don’t know why I do it but I think it’s a way of coping. I had a friend who didn’t treat me very well and we were constantly fighting, so I completely shut her out. Without warning. I changed my phone number, I blocked her on social media accounts, and that was our final year of school, so I didn’t havr to worry about seeing her again to explain myself. I did actually see her at the supermarket one time but I didn’t say hello and she gave me the evil eyes. I know I sound like a cruel and cold person but when I choose to be done with someone, there is no changing my mind. I have no desire to work through it. A person only gets one chance with me and they often can’t redeem themselves. I can forgive but I sure as hell don’t forget. That’s why to the people posting here whether or not their scorpios who froze them out will talk to them again, the answer is probably not…It will take a lot to convince a scorpio otherwise. I only cut out one friend. The others were all romantic partners.. And I’ve frozen out A LOT of romantic partners. A LOT.
For instance, One boy I really liked( sooo much) was from Spain(foreign exchange student) and we had been together for maybe 6 months. Anyway he told me he loved me and not long after that he had to go back to Spain. Then I get a call from him and he tells me that he’s met up with his old french girlfriend. Said that he was “confused about his feelings”. I ended that call abruptly and never talked to him again. Since then I’ve recieved a few calls and emails from him asking if he upset me and wanting to know if we could talk about it but he doesn’t understand that the damage is done. I want nothing to do with him anymore. And I don’t intend on ever forgiving him. What makes his spanish a** think he can tell me he loves me and then take it back only alittle while later? You don’t say something like that and then take it back. Anyone who says something like that without actually meaning it is a fool and I don’t have the paitience for fools. And let me tell you what,there are a lot of fools. And I’m not about to settle for one.
Being a scorpio sun, my friendships are intense and I take them very seriously. My biggest aggravation is when people do not appreciate me. Usually my friends don’t care about me as much as I care about them and I get hurt. I have a few friends who like to go on and on about how great their other friends are right in front of my face. One of my friends is BFFs with a girl who made it clear to her that she doesn’t really like me. When I’m with my friends, I make an effort to make them feel very important and then I feel unappreciated when they don’t do the same in return. It may seem random and quick when I cut off friends, but truthfully it takes A LOT of built of resentment for me to finally explode. Scorpios have no limits and they keep pushing through when friends disappoint them. But it’s only a matter of time before I explode and at that point I am too far gone to slowly distance myself, I just completely disappear.
I have had to freeze friends out to protect my heart. I have a scorpio stelium. In the last year I froze a friend of 28 years out. She used to lean on me with all her problems. Her daughter has been a drug addict for 20 years. I have always been there to lift her up ,to wipe her tears. She told me I was the only friend she could share her problems with. Then last spring I showed some weakness. Showed her some of my pain I have had through life. Her birthday was in July and what did I see? Pics on facebook of her birthday party she was having that I was not invited to. Since I have seen her a couple of times,been polite, but I will never be there for her again.
I’m an Aquarius have a strong attraction to Scorpios, growing up with a Scorpio mother (abusive) and older brother (distant). I always felt misunderstood and abandoned by both when I needed them most. In my adult life I seem to form quick, immediate bonds with Scorpios of both genders, but as each bond is broken I distrust them more and more. With the males I’ve noticed a pattern of instant attraction/connection, and a bit of a courtship dance that culminates in them making the first physical move. But as soon as I show any deeper interest they retreat or downplay what I thought was a very real connection, to the point that I lash out and walk away. I’ve read Aqua and Scorp square and our friction is natural, and intended to teach us both lessons. However, I’m frustrated at my inability to understand the lesson, much less communicate in a truly fulfilling way with people I genuinely admire. Scorpios are captivating to say the least. But I wholeheartedly distrust them with my feelings. What am I missing?
Scorpio men are that way, period, regardless of you sign, although a squared sign is always a little more of a challenge. You need to play it very, very cool with them until they make their intentions very clear. Very sorry you had bad experiences. We (I’m one) are not saints, but when we’re good, we’re very, very good and…you know the rest.
As a Scorpio, I’m going to tell you how it is. We give more energy in a relationship than any other sign. However, we don’t receive even a quarter of that energy back from others. We give intense thought, loyalty, inspiration and most of all love. We want to see other people happy. We thrive on it. We’ll do anything to make you happy. And to have your love. However, when we are double crossed or feel someone doesn’t care or isn’t trying or giving any energy at all, stung. Whoever is on the receiving end of the sting, is now as good as dead. Seriously. I’ve had best friends for 20 years and cut them off and never looked back. I was in love with someone for about 10 years and was treated like shit A LOT but my love for them was too strong. Eventually, out of the blue, I had enough, cut them off and have never looked back as well. That person who hardly cared sent messages to people I wasn’t even friends with trying to find me, doing everything they could. Eventually, after a YEAR of trying, they got a hold of a family member of mine (I never responded nor did the family member) and they pleaded to know what happened. This was coming from someone who only cared about 15% of the entire relationship now all of a sudden 120%. It truly makes people realize what they’ve done when a Scorpio stings. We don’t like being played, being vulnerable, treated like shit. Even if I did put up with it for years, we love so hard that sometimes, as hypocritical as it seems, we look past the bad. Also, I was extremely young and naive at the time. A Scorpio knows when it’s time to sting. We may wait it out for days, months, years but that’s what makes our sting so unexpected and painful. We greet you with a smile and a handshake then sting you. Just don’t cross us is my point. Also. we are also extremelyyy private (self preservation) which is truly a blessing in my eyes but I can see the cons, as with everything. We never give ourselves away 100%. You will never know a Scorpio fully, ever. We may trust you 100% (RARE, if ever!) and tell you “everything” but we’re still hiding a lot for our own sanity. Also, we may agree with you & say one thing but be thinking the complete opposite. We love to share our thoughts however we hate to share our thoughts, if that makes sense. I’d say a lot of Scorpios are loners. We want 2 great friends versus 1,000 “ok” friends and will sting everyone around us and be alone in life rather than treated like shit. Maybe when we’re younger and going through puberty, etc. and just want to be accepted (I did) we’ll put up with shit, but as I’ve grown older, I don’t have time for games anymore. Another big thing: never, ever lie to a Scorpio!! This is how you will get stung! We are human lie detectors. I genuinely mean this. We KNOW when someone is lying. Even the best liar. The best liar being a Scorpio. We’re better at our own game than you are. It’s literally a feeling that comes over us. I can instantly tell if somebody is lying and have called multiple people out on it and they’ve admitted to it. We are also very blunt. We will tell you like it is. We don’t sugarcoat shit. We expect the same in return as well. I’ve written a novel so I’m going to end this here. I hope this helps some of you. Just trying to give insight into a Scorpio’s mind. Research Scorpio’s before you get stung!!
Another example really quick: I just stung a “friend” of 5 years yesterday. She had it coming. My stinger was filling with poison for sometime, if you will. She would always complain about how nobody is there for her (when I put 200% into the friendship) however she was the one that was never there for anybody. Yesterday I told her an old friend of mine whom I lost contact with over the years (didn’t sting them, just happens) committed suicide. Her response was literally “that sucks” and that’s literally all it took. Two words, stung. Give us energy back. That’s a huge reason we sting is when we care and you don’t.
You described me as a Scorpio PERFECTTLY couldn’t have said it better myself. I cut people off because I have given them my ALL when they hurt me, they might as well be dead.
I’m not a Scorpio but I am an eighth house sun so I understand it. I’ve frozen a few people out of my life that I was once very close to. The reason was exactly that … they sucked the life out of me. I didn’t go into explanations with them because they weren’t willing to look at themselves so it would have been a wasted effort on my part. How do I feel? Mostly sad about it, but sad that the relationship between them and me was so unbalanced in the first place.
Well. even though I’m Scorpio, with a fww prominent position in that sign also, I’m pretty much easy going and not too vindicative(strong Sagittarius, also :)). But I have cut off some of the toxic people from my environment, and it was because they were REALLY out of line. I mean, you have to be extremely insensitive and mean in order for me to do that, because I’m loyal to the people in my inner circle. And after that, stays nothing. No emotions, no love, no hate, just indifference for the cut-off one. That is Scorpionic and really hurtful for the other side, but what can I do? Even my patience and understanding has its limits…
Anybody who has ever been important to me has usually had a planet in Scorpio bc it’s in my 4th house. They feel like family and I get bonded very quickly. But these days, I have to be choosy of the Scorpio company I keep. Saturn in Scorpio taught me this. I understand the need for space and long periods of silence because I need that too but I will never understand the want for prolonged mind games. Blowing hot and cold all the time.?
In fact, I’m about to amputate a couple of Scorpios who popped up in my life few months ago after years of a “freeze-out” session. My heart went cold towards them in that period of time but after a few weeks and genuine interest on their part, it slowly thawed out and I was cordial and even tried to rekindle the friendship. It was short-lived and even though I know better, I keep holding onto what was. ? I’m going to give it a couple of weeks and let all the emotion of these stormy skies pass a little. Because if I burn those bridges, it’s really over and I have to be 1000% sure I’m not gonna try to jump back into those waters and swim back… Because, despite doing this, I care for both of these confounding people deeply.
Saturn in Scorpio taught me this. I understand the need for space and long periods of silence because I need that too but I will never understand the want for prolonged mind games. Blowing hot and cold all the time.?
I am natal Scorpio, progressed Sun in Capricorn. I say, and not without some relief, that I “used” to be a Scorpio. Got involved with a guy who’s now progressed Sun Scorpio with natal Saturn in Scorpio (progressed still there, too.) Your statement, above, sums him up. Having already gone through all that Scorpio sturm und drang, I understand it, but still don’t appreciate it. Maybe this is Karma paying me back for having been a Scorpio in my “earlier” life! Don’t know what your natal Sun sign is, but my advice is to just keep leading by example. Scorpio people (eventually) know when they’ve been wrong, and they will appreciate you giving them enough space to repair the damage.
You’re certainly a very enlightened Scorpio, lolabelle. ? I appreciate earth signs so very much, especially Capricorn. I never have to question the loyalty of a Capricorn friend nor their ability to shoot straight from the hip. I have natal sun in Cancer but it sits in my 11th house which expresses more like a detached Aquarius. I need my family but I also need lots of space and honor my friends and family’s needs for that as well. But I don’t like drama and won’t tolerate it for long. Caps understand that too. ?
hi ,you can call me cat,ive been with my scorpio princess for three years I love her so much,,but now she don’t even return my calls are texts..im a handsome pieces male in my early fiftys ,and she is beautiful scorpio in her early 40s we had an amazsing first two years we would laugh and cry together,we where unsapateable..our thrird year ws wy different we spend more and more time apart mmand now she don’t talk to me,t all ..ithink because she didn’t answer me I begegan thinking she was talkiug to others,and I offen acused her of che,now when I call her she don’t answer and don’t talk to me ,,its hard because we live 75 miles aprt and don’t see eachother what can I do .to win her love once again,i now understand her ways,,i read somewhere that once a scopio loves you shell love you for ever..deep down in side I know she loves me,,were both in to tattoos,and I have her name twice ,and see has my name seven times all over her body,,pls help,,our do you think i really blew it didn’t i.called her all kinds of names took back gifts ,just about anything I thougth that would hurt her..now im the one hurting..whaqt do you think I should do..plz help,,the catt