Coincidentally enough, a youtube relationship coach I follow is doing a livestream today on twin flames - which I find incredibly interesting because she is the polar opposite of a woo-woo type, touchy-feely, "it's a spiritual connection,' in her advice! Who knows, maybe she'll trash the whole concept of twin flames.
If anyone is interested:
Be forewarned if you watch: her energy strikes me a bit as 'think and act like a man' and I wouldn't be surprised if she has an avoidant attachment style. So if you're looking for a warm hug type of relationship advice, this ain't it ?
@libralicious i watched it until it got to be too redundant.. she basically echoed what I said.. that it's definitely a divine encounter/intervention as a vehicle for self-elevation and it happens by plunging into the depths of discomfort and despair.
But, she agreed (which is opposite of what is mostly written about twin flames) that the purpose is not for reunion later as most want to believe.
she also made it sound like she believes in more than one possibility of the experience, which is not what is mostly out there... allegedly a twin flame is your one and only... barf
@belladonna I watched as well, and yeah, I think she was coming at it from her own experience only. And the truth is, if there is such a thing as "twin flames" then I don't think these relationships follow a cookie cutter path or experience. She made it sound like it isn't a twin flame if it isn't this over-the-top mad, intense love. I don't know if you caught it, but at one point, she said the 1st guy had to get a restraining order against her - or something like that. I think that's coming at it from a really unhealthy perspective, to say the least!
I think it's those types of definitions that become problematic for people wanting to believe their relationship is a twin flame relationship. It can keep people stuck. Also re the concept of reunion, who knows if that's at least part of the purpose or not. Either way, reunion won't be successful in any relationship when exes get back together if both parties haven't worked through their issues and experienced growth.
I still find these relationship topics entertaining, though! ?
I believe in twin flames, but it's very easy to mistake a karmic for a twin. It FEELS like meeting the person was meant to be, and it was, but not always for the reason you think. What seems like construction is sometimes demolition to build with someone else later or just to clear away debris so you can build alone.
@wailingstorm I guess that's part of my question - or confusion. What's the difference between a twin flame and a karmic relationship? And who decides that - and who made the rules to begin with?!
It's not like astrology, there's no geometry involved, or actual planetary transits that most people use to explain what they think the "rules" are. And if the rules are ordained by faith, then there are no rules except your own.
One thing I hate about this phenomenon is people who say they know what a real twin flame is. Ones who say (not to me just stuff I’ve read) “if it were a real twin flame (fill in the blank) or “that doesn’t sound like a true twin flame” And judge all others who say they have met their twin flame that don’t have an experience just like theirs. There are a lot of truly ignorant people believing in twin flames. And posting all their nonsense and so called expertise. It just gets under my skin. It’s grosser than dogma.
If you notice, most people who talk about twin flames are young, naive, immature and often extremely ignorant.
you don’t often find a well adjusted, balanced, mature person talking much about it. I wish I could see what some younger people who believe in it now, think about it in 20 years.
@la_sirena ? I'd love to know where the twin flame manual is, and who wrote it. What is a *real* twin flame anyway? Or is it just a name given by someone who needed to describe a transformative relationship experience they had?
You know, that's probably it. What is being called a twin flame relationship is really just a transformative relationship. Makes a lot of sense.
Bingo! That’s exactly what it is. So what is a transformative relationship? It’s a relationship that forces you to come to terms with your shadow so that ultimately you become a balanced human being. That’s the goal. Balance. I’m not necessarily talking about Libra balance but spiritual balance. A uniting of the duality inherent in each of us.
Twin flames are NOT a relationship. You can't be in a relationship with your self. "They" are you, one being. Hard to describe as it's all energy and people's minds cannot understand this. Words fall short. Like explaining colors to a blind person. Your other self energetically activates your spiritual awakening and the goal is ascension, nothing more. IF your soul brings them in, it's a byproduct of going within. It's the true spiritual journey of letting go of form. If you don't, you suffer
IF you have expectations, longing, emotions, want validation, reciprocation, etc etc, the energy pushes them away. It's ONE energy system. You are polarized at the astral. One positive (pushes) one negative (pull)
There are a few key energy points to determine IF the other is a twin flame.
1) Dark night of the soul/ego (mine was 6 months = brutal, hardest thing I've ever done in my life)
2) Obsessive thinking (off the charts, on steroids obsessive...whew)
3) Doubt (doubt is there because at the beginning of dark night of the soul, the mind's duality energy is activated and your energy swings from doubt (mind) to knowing (the soul))
4) Core wound activation (either heart, solar plexus, or sacral chakras) it's not a wound to "heal" but where the soul is tethered here in the physical ... mine was the heart chakra...pounding out my chest very hard for 3 weeks...nothing I've ever experienced
5) Knowing -- after your dark night of the soul energy settles down, your inner knowing soul energy is apparent
6) Majority, not all, have a kundalini awakening
This energy is HAPPENING TO YOU, you have absolutely no control; at least for several months.
Soulmates are a transactional relationship: emotions, you do something for them/they do something for you, reciprocations, etc. Another soul loving another soul
Twin flames are one soul two bodies
The harder you try to receive anything FROM your twin flame, the other resists (pulls). So you are forced to go within
Everyone has and is a twin flame. The only difference is, once soul recognition occurs, you are conscious of the inner knowing
Sadly, many people "think" the name twin flames is endearing so the majority of twin flame couples on Youtube chanels are not twin flames. They are just putting soulmates into the twin flame box
I've had some brutal and equally transcendental experiences. I will never be the same, and my level of spiritual consciousness has and is expanding
Hope this helps