“Popularity should be no scale for the election of politicians. If it would depend on popularity, Donald Duck and The Muppets would take seats in senate.”
–Orson Welles
What makes a person popular? You don’t have to be nice to be popular. You don’t have to physically attractive to be popular. To my mind, popularity is when the majority of people in your sphere want to be associated with you. There are lots of roads to the same destination, but one I’ve noticed has to do the Venus, Mars and the ascendant.
The ascendant/descendant axis is associated with Venus and Mars, Venus ruling the 7th and Mars ruling the 1st. Venus and the 7th house have to do with your aesthetic and what attracts you. Mars and the 1st house is associated with the way you act and how you go about getting what you want. The ascendant itself, the 1st house cusp, represents one’s appearance, both physical and that of the personality, how we’re seen on the surface.
Popularity is broad appeal. This broad appeal can be apparent in the chart. Venus trine, sextile or conjunct the ascendant is one indicator. Mars trine, sextile or conjunct the ascendant is another, although less strong. The stronger indicator, however, is both Venus and Mars in these aspects to the ascendant. Venus or Mars in the 1st and 7th houses also has play here.
When Venus and Mars agree with the ascendant/descendant axis, what one wants and how they act is in outward accord with how they appear. They’re easy to subconsciously categorize, pleasant, congruous, safe. People with this combination don’t set off internal anomaly detectors. They slide easily into “oh, he’s/she’s okay!” That makes for general popularity.
Popularity on an individual level, relating one on one, will have more to do with how that person’s chart interacts with the other individual’s chart. Being popular does not mean being truly liked by each person in the group.
Sometimes transiting aspects to the ascendant, Mars or Venus can result in temporary, “transitory,” popularity. Have you ever experienced this?
What is your take on popularity? What is it in the chart that you think makes a person popular?
I’m not popular, but I’m not a total outcast either (even when I feel like one – anxiety disorder developed in childhood). I was born popular/happy in myself, able to talk with anyone, and would happily do so.
Uranus conjunct Scorpio ascendant, inconjunct Moon/Venus/South Node, trine Mars in Pisces.
Jupiter is inconjunct my ascendant, too – widely.
I am not popular because of my anti-social leanings but I find Sag,Leo, Libra, Aquarius folk most enjoyable to be around
Charisma
Although my Mars does conjoin my Ascendant in Aquarius, my Scorpio Venus Squares it.
I’m memorable.
But popular, I don’t know, I feel I’m the guy you’d say yes he’s a nice guy, but then overlook for an invitation. My first class reunion was odd, knowing myself as a loner, but every group thought of me as one of them, the jocks, the nerds, the peppy people, etc…
At work everyone knows my name, without trying, I do make an impression, now weather it’s the right impression, again I don’t know.
As for the other planets that aspect my Ascendant, the Moon with Chiron rx in Aries Sextiles, Uranus in Libra Trines, and Saturn rx also squares in a t-square with both Mars and Venus
If you count the progressed chart,
My Capricorn Sun is squaring my Ascendant in Aries, and my Uranus is at my Decendant in Libra
I too am introverted.
many individuals prefer introverts, Bruce. 🙂
True, but getting two introverts into the same room together might be a bit of a challenge, sometimes. I know once I’m coerced out of my house to have fun I do, and I do like being around small groups of people, crowds can be allot, and even though lonely, quiet alone time has some benefits.
Yes, If I found an introvert and we could convince each other to venture out that would be great, or an extrovert to bring me out of my shell, or someone somewhere between.
My solar return this year will have Mars in Virgo with Orcus in my 5th house in a t-square with Neptune in Aquarius and Chiron in Pisces 10th house, and the Sun in Scorpio on the Decendant in house 6pladicus, 7equal. But Mars is also in a grand trine with one side in house 8 and Pluto in Capricorn, and the other side with Jupiter rx in Taurus house 1 and Lillith in Aries house 12
I get along better with introverts, usually. I don’t mind them being quiet, I’m 50/50 on the scale of introversion/extroversion, and I don’t mind waiting for them to come to me, should they want to. I dropped out of school, because I hated the social crap, and just wanted to do my work at home.
I’m 50/50 too. best of both worlds, I say.
Didn’t mean to hijack the blog thread, It’s a great topic. Agreed so is introvert/extrovert, I can start a post on the boards for this, I didn’t have a topic for today, so this will work out nice.
you didn’t hijack! you’re participating! 😀
I’d say I’m still 80/20 at least. Was far more isolated before my current job, where I learned allot on social behavior of humans. If I take nothing else away from this job, I at least got that.
I have a lot of scorpio, as I now know you do, Bruce. I used to think I was a threadkiller till someone told me that sometimes my comments were complete in themselves, and therefore they didn’t reply.
Thank you Satori, because I didn’t intend to.
So good I didn’t =)
those who listen end up knowing more than those who talk.
(that was about your 80/20 comment) 😉
Oh I have thought sometimes this too, but hijacking and being a thread killer is different, I do have a few posts on my history showing no further comments, but steering the topic off point even though related … well you said I didn’t.
I found the topic was very interesting and tapped into a strong aspect in my chart.
My Grandfather taught me that by his actions, my Grandmother, on my Mother’s side talked and talked and talked, and he just sat there, and from time to time gave me a knowing look as we both caught on about something in the conversation. It is from my Grandfather and also through my Mother that I got my strong sence of Empathy. Which does come out in my being an introvert.
I don’t mind being an introvert. Popularity usually ends up finding extroverts due to their outgoing nature.
I’m going to bed now though, I’ll check in tommorrow to see how the thread is going. Hope it’s still going strong.
true, I went off topic. 🙂
OOps sorry, it happens, you can probably reel it in or repost on the boards. It’s okay to go off topic to it’s your thread, I liked seeing what people were commenting on the Venus/Mars/Ascendant thing.
I used to be one of the quietest ones in the room (or on the board) taking things in, and feeling like I knew people, but with them not really knowing me, and my being too shy to extend myself/open up. Unfortunately, it took huge emotional upset, spilling, and then a chip on my shoulder, to shift the shyness. I now feel weird, and wish that I’d tried to get to know people when I was shy but happier in ways – some people thought I was weird, because I was so quiet, but I liked myself more then than I do now.
I forgot to mention earlier, that in Equal House, Moon/Venus are in the 7th, at the end of the house. Placidus, they’re conjunct the cusp of the 8th. I can see them playing out in the 7th when I was smaller and talking with everyone – totally comfortable – and my wanting to be kind to everyone. I hate that I’m so prickly now, in specific situations. (Bruce, I’ve been isolated for a long time, too – deliberately when I was younger, and now not so much, but I still can only handle so much socializing.)
Mid Heaven signs/planets/aspects also tells about popularity.
like a Leo MC, Sun aspecting MC or in the 10th
thanks, Paulo!!
I thank you all… i’m constantly learning new stuff.
venus/neptune conjunct descendant.
not popular exactly but i try to please. and blend in i guess.
i usually have good ideas on what pleases people, but i can’t always be what they want me to be.
I don’t know if I’m popular. I know I’m well-liked at work, I’m sure it’s because I’m very low-maintenance and low-drama at work. Just pleasant and getting the job done.
My friends–well they’re my friends so of course the love me.
Other people? I only socialize when I’m feeling my Sagittarius ASC best, and that keeps me welcome to come back. If not, I stay home and hide.
I have Venus/Mars conjunct, sextile chart ruler Jupiter (which is in Gemini).
l know a Pisces Asc Venus scorpio let’s say a well loved person…interesting.
l have no aspects between the asc and venus/mars.
l have Venus cnjunct Mars in Aries 8th h. my popularity as a person can be momentary, my work being accepted and appreciated is far more important to me, plus too many people would be too many puzzles to put together.. it drains me 😉
Heh – I have Mars in Scorp conj ASC on the 12th house & Venus in Sagittarius conj the ASC in the first.
pleasant, congruous, safe. People with this combination don’t set off internal anomaly detectors.
Yup! Though I’m sorely lacking in “star power”, too many planets in the 12th. 😀
My boyfriend is one of the most popular people I know. He is very outgoing, has loads of charisma, and he loves people…I think that’s why people love him.
He is Aries rising with Taurus Venus on Ascendant
with opposing Scorp Jupiter on Descendant
There is also a tight trine from Neptune to his Ascendant/Venus, and I think that helps with the popularity, because you can sense the compassion and sensitivity.
He’s also a Gemini so that helps with loving to converse with all types of people!
Satori, all my life I’ve been (within my sphere and within what I could see) one of the most highly sought after – by both genders – one often put on a pedestal or emulated… and simultaneously one of the most detested persons I know.
How do you explain something like that? 70% of the people I know are viewed in a neutral manner, i.e. they’re neither loved nor hated. I wouldn’t mind me some neutrality or consistency.
I have experienced this too!
Salali
There was a quote in a movie that went something like, “What you are now doesn’t change who you are, be who you are, but sometimes be this too.” I try not to lose any part of me, I just try to discover how to allow myself to find the love I desire, and not cause and discord in the process, while being able to protect those I am responsible for.
Satori and Paulo,
“Mid Heaven signs/planets/aspects also tells about popularity.”
I’ll look into it. And I’ll keep reading on the Venus/Mars/Ascendant thing. =)
Hi all, I have mars conjunct venus (Cap) trine my Taurus Ascendant.
People with this combination don’t set off internal anomaly detectors.
I guess I can relate to this, not sure about popularity, but a general good will? I do try to be congruent.
I set off alarm bells…then I try to hide further, which sets off more alarm bells, lol. Scorpio Ascendant, no aspects to it natally. Venus in 7th.
Actually, I don’t know if I’m “popular” or not. LOL! But I have a Sadge Sun conjunct a Sadge Ascendant, Venus in Sadge, Mars in Scorpio and Jupiter in the 1st……….
I have a virgo sun sign, a leo ascendant and a capricorn moon sign. My venus is in the first house and conjuncts me ascendant. My mars is in leo and also conjuncts my ascendant. I have found that people generally like me but i dont know if im popular.
Hehe, now i know why i was so popular well liked by everybody and i mean everybody as i never gave anybody a reason to dislike or even hate me and i never understood it until now :). Excellent reputation, welcome everywhere, respected etc
I have Mars square Asc Aqua, Venus conjun Ascendant (Saturn + Uranus Sextile asc aswell)
I have Venus square my AC. I think this creates a bit of a problem. However, Venus is in dignity. I am very agreeable, I have manners, and I in general don’t take things personally, at least not as much as I did when I was younger. Mars is in my 1st house but is a bit too far from my AC to make an aspect. I don’t know that I have ever been popular, but the people who like me, really like and trust me.
I have ascendant trine venus. I really don’t know. I guess I do have that kind of aloofness and detachment that makes people try hard to get to know me. I do catch people staring at me a lot. But then I make no impression on some people. Like I’ve met them five times and they don’t remember me.
Grand trine with Libra rising, Vênus in gemini And mars in aquarius!
I am taurus, i am more popular than i really thought i Was!
I have Venus in Scorpio sextile Virgo Asc and Mars in Leo conjunct Virgo asc and i really do feel like i have a presence whenever I walk into a room but I wouldn’t necessarily call myself popular though.This Virgo rising isn’t always fond of the attention lol.
I know this thread is super old.. But I feel compelled to add to it. I found it randomly searching the internet for knowledge about astrological aspects. I have mars conjunct venus in virgo my 5th house. I have both mars and venus trine my ascendent and midheaven. I was very shy when I was a young child and got bullied in school. But once I went off to college I became much more social and now consider myself a social butterfly. I always craved popularity when I was younger. I go out of my way to be nice to people, compliment them and I’m known for my great manners. I’m like that with everyone.. all the time. I have mercury, sun and pluto in Libra. I have a lot of friends and I’ve noticed that I feel happiest when I’m out with a big group of my friends. I like to think I’m popular…Great topic!
My mars and venus conjunct my ascendant in pisces…and i am totally famous…plus a dash of jupiter uranus conjunct my MC in Sagittarius its nutz…jka4alaugh!
lol!
Hm. I have Mars in my 1H at 27° and far from the AC but when I am comfortable in a group (Virgo) I will pop my head up and join (sometimes doesn’t take long! Mars!) I have Saturn in 7H, opposite my AC so I worry about my impression but Venus (5H) does trine my AC. How can you not like me? I don’t understand! lol
You aren’t crazy about me? Whatever (Uranus conjunct AC) and I can turn on the enclosure bubble for protection (Pluto AC)
Anyway, I am not raving wild TMZ-popular but I get along well with all groups even if I just sit back and take it al in.
True, I’m definitely very popular!!
Venus trine Ascendant
Venus trine Moon
+
Undeviated chart(Aries Ascendant)
Libra Sun
Leo Venus (5th house)
Leo Mars (5th house)
Virgo Mercury
😀 🙂